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Congrats to Tecnam! Looks like it will be a winner. There are a lot of hard working BN Islanders/404's/Navajo's around waiting for a replacement.

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375 hp from a 540. Impressive.
190 kts seems pretty good too.

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A poor man’s Pilatus. I love it!

And it'll really haul some stuff!

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I don't see this thing making 190 knots. Maybe at FL210, but who's gonna fly it that high?

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I don't see this thing making 190 knots. Maybe at FL210, but who's gonna fly it that high?


Tecnam says 190kts at 10,000’.

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I don't see this thing making 190 knots. Maybe at FL210, but who's gonna fly it that high?

It’s designed for short missions. Speed is not the most important point.

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I don't see this thing making 190 knots. Maybe at FL210, but who's gonna fly it that high?

Without pressurization, pretty much no operator outside of long ferry flights. It might not even see that for delivery.
These will be lucky to see 10,000 most days. Hopefully they have AC!


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I don't see this thing making 190 knots. Maybe at FL210, but who's gonna fly it that high?


Tecnam says 190kts at 10,000’.


Hah. It might make 190 knots on it's way from 11,000' to 9000'.
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I don’t think they see their mission as a real speedy long hauler, but rather filling the niche of small plane companies like Cape Air and others. They already have quite a few of these sold, including 20 to Cape Air to replace their old C402s.

Nonetheless, their stats are pretty impressive:
Max Cruise Speed (KTAS) 190 kts @ 10.000 ft
Stall Speed (Flaps Down Power Off) KCAS 126 km/h – 68 kt
Practical ceiling
Take off run 1246 ft
Take off distance 2146 ft
Landing Run 968 ft

Seems like a lot of plane for $2.7 million to me.

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Seems like a lot of plane for $2.7 million to me.

Not me. I've owned two twins with TSIO-520's and I just don't grasp why Cape Air doesn't use Caravans. Makes no sense. I've read all the arguments for 100LL burning pistons but after my experience, those turbos are squeezing every ounce of power out of those engines possible. In the long run that's a lot of maintenance they wouldn't have on one good PT-6. And they could probably get their Jet-A price down to around $2.50 a gallon or less in the current market.

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I think two engines are required for airline operation. That would explain the choice of two recips over one pt-6


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Probably not practical for cross country, but seems like it would be quite a family hauler with an executive interior. ;) Seems a little faster than a Kodiak or a Caravan.

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