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Post subject: Re: My Cessna 425 Conquest I Posted: 06 Dec 2018, 21:54 |
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Joined: 05/31/13 Posts: 1227 Post Likes: +600 Company: Docking Drawer Location: KCCR
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Clint, I've heard that the Mustangs are super reliable. Kevin M at Aero Air and I are acquaintances and he said if I wanted a reliable airplane, buy a Mustang. Has that been your experience? What are the costs like? What would it cost in maintenance to run it 150 hours per year? Is the 1200 nm range realistic and including reserves? It seems like it would be a great plane for 2-4 people and some stuff.
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Post subject: Re: My Cessna 425 Conquest I Posted: 06 Dec 2018, 22:04 |
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Joined: 01/24/10 Posts: 6730 Post Likes: +4406 Location: Concord , CA (KCCR)
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Username Protected wrote: Tim I was comparing a stock C90? Doesn’t the GT have -135 engines? A stock C90 has less climb performance. Gerald the -135’s on the C90GT are derated to 550 shp, the same as the -21’s on the 90B. The difference is at altitude, the -135’s don’t temp out as low as the -21’s. Hence better hot and high performance. Tim
Thanks Tim, what’s the pressure Diff on a C90GT.? Is it more than 5.0.?
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Post subject: Re: My Cessna 425 Conquest I Posted: 06 Dec 2018, 22:06 |
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Joined: 01/01/10 Posts: 3435 Post Likes: +2388 Location: Roseburg, Oregon
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Sorry for the thread drift, Scott. I was just amazed how similar the two are. They even weigh about the same. I've talked about it on some other threads, so you can do a search and find those. In a nutshell, my DOC this year is running right at $1,000/hr. My first year was 2015 and the DOC was $800/hr back then. It's gone up because of higher fuel prices and my engine and parts programs were renewed this year at a higher rate. Still, not too bad. Fixed costs run about $40,000/yr (insurance, training, hangar, subscriptions, etc.). The 1200nm range is VFR, and I've done it several times. You can do it with up to 770lbs of payload. My average flight is more like 600-700nm, and I can fill the seats then. For long flights, first hour is 600lbs, 500lbs every hour thereafter. The G1000 is a great panel, and the airplane is simple to fly.
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Post subject: Re: My Cessna 425 Conquest I Posted: 06 Dec 2018, 22:40 |
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Joined: 08/20/09 Posts: 2395 Post Likes: +1858 Company: Jcrane, Inc. Location: KVES Greenville, OH
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Username Protected wrote: Who are the top shops for 425's, and where are they located? Or, if you were based in the Dayton Ohio area where would you go? Jack, someone recently posted about a former TAS employee -(think it was their head guy?) branching out on his own in OH and was purported to have 425 experience.... I’ll try to dig it up. Steve Fortner. He’s at Williams County, 0G6 now. Great guy, does great work.
We’ve been with TAS since we bought the 421. They don’t seem all that interested in the Conquests though...just the vibe I’ve picked up.
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Post subject: Re: My Cessna 425 Conquest I Posted: 06 Dec 2018, 23:18 |
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Joined: 05/09/17 Posts: 21 Post Likes: +13 Location: Houston, TX
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Very interesting thread. Not to hijack the discussion, but when considering a move from piston twin to TP, anyone have any experience with the turbo Commander (690B)? As I look at all the models that everyone considered in competition/consideration, I haven’t seen much discussion about Commander. I know many don’t like the Garrett engines, but anyone with comments about ownership?
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Post subject: Re: My Cessna 425 Conquest I Posted: 07 Dec 2018, 12:01 |
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Username Protected wrote: I know many don’t like the Garrett engines,
FWIW, I like my Garrett engines just fine. My opinion on the Commander from my perspective as a one time shopper (didn’t buy) is the 690s have ADs that are somewhat costly and inconvenient, and the plane is huge and harder to hangar in many places.
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Post subject: Re: My Cessna 425 Conquest I Posted: 07 Dec 2018, 13:53 |
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Username Protected wrote: Quote: Can you share the shop that did the overhaul? Tech Aire Instruments in Wichita. techcust@tech-aire.com Ask for Brenda. Got it. Thanks.
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Post subject: Re: My Cessna 425 Conquest I Posted: 09 Mar 2023, 02:04 |
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Joined: 10/21/21 Posts: 22 Post Likes: +16
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Username Protected wrote: John:
I'm looking at buying a C425. Would you say the Blackhawk conversion is justified? I have been flying the Blackhawk for five years. The developer states ithe C425 was the best conversion Blackhawk has ever done.
Please login or Register for a free account via the link in the red bar above to download files.
_________________ I have all the planes I need, but not all the planes I want.
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Post subject: Re: My Cessna 425 Conquest I Posted: 09 Mar 2023, 03:35 |
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Joined: 02/02/23 Posts: 18 Post Likes: +15
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Thanks for your post, Kelly.
My 425 is headed in to the shop in 3 weeks for the Blackhawk upgrade. It’s been a long wait; P&WC has been selling those engines to the Turkish government, I’m told.
We’ll see how it turns out. I already get slightly better than book performance on my 40 year old -112s with ITTs under 700 — 255-265 KTAS depending on altitude and temperature. Jim Allmon writes that you have to run the max 805 ITT to get the advertised speed.
I’ll post.
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Post subject: Re: My Cessna 425 Conquest I Posted: 09 Mar 2023, 09:33 |
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Joined: 08/09/11 Posts: 1726 Post Likes: +2048 Company: Naples Jet Center Location: KAPF KPIA
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Username Protected wrote: Very interesting thread. Not to hijack the discussion, but when considering a move from piston twin to TP, anyone have any experience with the turbo Commander (690B)? As I look at all the models that everyone considered in competition/consideration, I haven’t seen much discussion about Commander. I know many don’t like the Garrett engines, but anyone with comments about ownership?
Joshua For the most part, Commander folks just keep quiet and fly and don’t have a big self help group. The planes are great. So are Conquests and Mustangs, etc. There’s junk out there in every aging fleet of course.
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