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Sam, that is awesome. Thanks for posting.

I cannot believe how fast this thing is.

Are the runway numbers quoted balanced field lengths?

Why does landing distance increase with warmer temps?

I am going to go work harder now in the hopes this becomes single pilot.


Wondering the same thing on the TOFL. Suspect it is but I sent an inquiry to Nextant.
And maybe higher temps affect braking energy ?

Could be an awesome deal but CJ4’s are probably going to tank down to $5. Nice to have a plane that could do 2 legs east to west transcontinental instead of 3.


It is almost certianly BFL. Also you might point out the typo in their marketing presentation.

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Yeah. Saw that Mark.

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Takeoff distances are balanced field lengths. Landing distances increase with higher temps simply because of density altitude, just like every airplane does. Higher ground speed increases landing distance.

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Dumb question but are jets required to have balanced field length!

Re:cj4 - old nextants are a lot cheaper than even tanked cj4 plus IMO the cabin is much better.

Wouldn’t the nextant be able to do 2 legs east to west in virtually all conditions?


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Dumb question but are jets required to have balanced field length!


Part 25 - require BFL
Part 23 - does not
Some Part 23 jets like Citations use Part 25 BFL.

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Takeoff distances are balanced field lengths. Landing distances increase with higher temps simply because of density altitude, just like every airplane does. Higher ground speed increases landing distance.


:scratch: Well you got me on that one Clint. Of course I knew higher density altitude meant higher less performance but I didn’t realize it meant signicant higher ground speeds. Good to know. Thanks

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Takeoff distances are balanced field lengths. Landing distances increase with higher temps simply because of density altitude, just like every airplane does. Higher ground speed increases landing distance.


:scratch: Well you got me on that one Clint. Of course I knew higher density altitude meant higher less performance but I didn’t realize it meant signicant higher ground speeds. Good to know. Thanks


To say it another way - landing ref speeds are all indicated airspeeds. True airspeeds increase with density altitude. Landing speed relative to runway increases.
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Re: TAS vs Density Altitude

10 degrees C changed TAS 1 knot.


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10 degrees C changed TAS 1 knot.


Rule of thumb 1kt fast on Vref = 100 ft more landing distance. That about agrees with the table at SL.

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10 degrees C changed TAS 1 knot.


Rule of thumb 1kt fast on Vref = 100 ft more landing distance. That about agrees with the table at SL.


Cool. Thanks Allen. Hard to forget that.
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