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 Post subject: Last “Operational” Caravelle
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Cool - IMO - Certainly among the top 3 prettiest airliners ever built.

1) Concorde
2) Caravelle
3) Convair 880

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These last-flying threads have me thinking about an olde airliner that I never had a chance to ride … the B707. Not yet had a flight on a 787, but there remains time. Otherwise; I think I have done flights on everything I can think of … damn I am olde.

On the CV-880 trip, I remember the (TWA) Capt bragging about 702 MPH. Dunno if that was TAS or GS. IIRC; CVG-PIT-BOS

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Cool - IMO - Certainly among the top 3 prettiest airliners ever built.

1) Concorde
2) Caravelle
3) Convair 880


Great taste Allen. Concorde is definitely number 1, my biggest regret is that I will never fly in one.

Concorde and La Caravelle were designed and built by the same company, Sud Aviation.

As a matter of fact, there was a project called "Super-Caravelle". Don't laugh at the name, it's a relic of the times, there was also a Super-Mystère B2, and the famous Super-Etendard.

Anyway, Super-Caravelle was a project by Sud Aviation to design, with Dassault, a supersonic airliner; Dassault being quite familiar with delta wings, of course. See where this is going?
Super-Caravelle was to be available in two versions, one (shorter than Concorde) for the European/African flights that AF was operating at the time, and a bigger one for transatlantic flights.

Of course it all got scrapped and mixed with the Bristol 223 project, and became the most beautiful avion ever designed.

Meanwhile, Super Caravelle (without the hyphen), or SE-210B, was the name given to a stretched version of the Caravelle.

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I had a Lego model of a Caravelle as a kid. Those triangular-esque windows and cruciform tail really seemed unique to me at the time.

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The Caravelle was the first jet that my Dad flew, and he really enjoyed it. I got to fly on one of his trips, and it was my first time in a jet. United’s Caravelles we’re all first class, but the fuselage was narrower than a Boeing single-aisle so the seats were not that large.

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Cool - IMO - Certainly among the top 3 prettiest airliners ever built.

1) Concorde
2) Caravelle
3) Convair 880


I agree with your choices. There seems to be something about airliners starting with the letter “C.” I’ll add another: the Comet, designed by DeHavilland.

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Cool - IMO - Certainly among the top 3 prettiest airliners ever built.

1) Concorde
2) Caravelle
3) Convair 880


There should be two lists. On the first one, there is the Connie. :bow:

On the second list, there is everything else.

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Cool - IMO - Certainly among the top 3 prettiest airliners ever built.

1) Concorde
2) Caravelle
3) Convair 880


There should be two lists. On the first one, there is the Connie. :bow:

On the second list, there is everything else.

Jg


Well, I have to admit my list was thinking about the jet airliners, perhaps a product of me being young enough to have never ridden on a piston driven commercial airliner, but if we want to make a jet - prop list I'll go with these for prop driven airliners.

1) Connie
2) Bristol Brittania (breaking with the "C" theme)
3) Vicker Viscount - While nothing extraordinary it always struck me a as a clean design.
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Cool - IMO - Certainly among the top 3 prettiest airliners ever built.

1) Concorde
2) Caravelle
3) Convair 880


There should be two lists. On the first one, there is the Connie. :bow:

On the second list, there is everything else.

Jg


Hey JG,

My father worked as a steward for BOAC (British Airways) on a Connie back in the fifties. His routes took him from London to Tokyo with stops via Cairo, Beirut, Baghdad, Delhi, Singapore and Hong Kong. At each stop the flight crew had two days off before continuing. It was a different time and must have been a wonderful way to see the world.

It goes without saying I have had a soft spot for the Connie ever since.

-ad

P.S. He also traveled as a passenger on the SS United States, another beautiful machine I would love to have seen in its prime.
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Antoni - since we've now brought up UK aircraft, I have to say that the Vickers VC-10 still looks amazing and fast today. BOAC and Gulf Air we're pretty much the only ones that flew them.

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Hey Adam, I agree.
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There was some design collaboration between deHaviland and Sud Aviation on the Caravelle because the nose section is identical between it and the Comet.

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I’m surprised the Super Constellation wasn’t mention?


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I still remember flying with this from Nice to Paris... Found memories. Back when you had to dress up to fly...
Miss those days.
I just landed in Nice, and people around me did not look the same as they looked when we debarked from the Caravalle.

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