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Post subject: Re: Surf Air  Posted: 10 Nov 2018, 00:39 |
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Username Protected wrote: Founders had an idea. VC invested. VC bounced the founders. Brought “senior leadership” in. Trouble sets in. Senior leadership doesn’t have the fire...they are tired. VC has no more cards to play. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surf_AirAfter I'm done flying for them, I might write a book about them. Title could be "how to come up with a horrible idea and fail executing it"...
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Post subject: Re: Surf Air Posted: 10 Nov 2018, 00:42 |
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Username Protected wrote: Founders had an idea. VC invested. VC bounced the founders. Brought “senior leadership” in. Trouble sets in. Senior leadership doesn’t have the fire...they are tired. VC has no more cards to play. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surf_AirAfter I'm done flying for them, I might write a book about them. Title could be "how to come up with a horrible idea and fail executing it"...
I would buy a copy.
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Post subject: Re: Surf Air Posted: 10 Nov 2018, 00:43 |
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Username Protected wrote: See quite a few of the King Airs At KPBI on a pretty frequent schedule. They don't operate in Florida. Must be a different company.
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Post subject: Re: Surf Air Posted: 10 Nov 2018, 00:45 |
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Username Protected wrote: What assets do they have if they do not own aircraft? One of you smartalecks will say - Other people’s money. They have a substantial amount of gluten free snacks to cater the flights.
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Post subject: Re: Surf Air Posted: 10 Nov 2018, 09:25 |
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Username Protected wrote: See quite a few of the King Airs At KPBI on a pretty frequent schedule. They don't operate in Florida. Must be a different company.
You’re right, I was thinking UP! +1 
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Post subject: Re: Surf Air Posted: 10 Nov 2018, 12:01 |
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Too bad. I was thinking that flying for Surf was going to be my retirement job.
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Post subject: Re: Surf Air Posted: 10 Nov 2018, 12:23 |
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I have just started to hear radio ads for Surf Air in the Los Angeles area so it seems like someone has stepped in to try and reinvigorate the idea. I think its interesting trying to fill a niche below JetSuite X, unfortunately these reemergence seem to typically end in closing up shop and paychecks and maintenance bills not being paid. If you do business with them, you better make sure payment is received up front!
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Post subject: Re: Surf Air Posted: 10 Nov 2018, 12:29 |
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Username Protected wrote: https://www.surfair.com/us/
?? They refer to their third party operators.... Is it just a broker company? They use to lease or own PC-12's in their California operations. They sold that maybe a year or two ago and went solely to 3rd party operators.
It sounds like maybe they made a small fortune....out of a large fortune.  
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Post subject: Re: Surf Air Posted: 10 Nov 2018, 12:43 |
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Most disappointing is that Surfair created ill will in the surrounding neighborhoods of KSQL from overhead noise that will last much longer than their business.
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Post subject: Re: Surf Air Posted: 10 Nov 2018, 18:00 |
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Quote: just started to hear radio ads for Surf Air in the Los Angeles area They are doing a lot of radio ads on a Sacramento station also. Avoid the TSA and fly for reasonable cost.. or some such. KFBK
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Post subject: Re: Surf Air Posted: 10 Nov 2018, 19:51 |
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Username Protected wrote: I have just started to hear radio ads for Surf Air in the Los Angeles area so it seems like someone has stepped in to try and reinvigorate the idea. I think its interesting trying to fill a niche below JetSuite X, unfortunately these reemergence seem to typically end in closing up shop and paychecks and maintenance bills not being paid. If you do business with them, you better make sure payment is received up front! They took 2 airframes from Texas to reopen a few routes in California, that's why they are trying to win back customers with their advertising. Let's just say. Do you think a financially stable company would resort to crowdfunding to find customers by basically price dumping their "memberships"...? https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/surf-air-express#/
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Post subject: Re: Surf Air Posted: 10 Nov 2018, 19:57 |
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I was in Truckee yesterday and they appeared to be in operation.
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Post subject: Re: Surf Air Posted: 15 Nov 2018, 01:53 |
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What do I know, but if Surf Air interests you, you might want to check N111NY, N809SA, and N816SA, which were the tail numbers operating for them in Texas.
Looks like they are done for good.
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