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 Post subject: Re: Phenom 300
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Was that 4 months from PPL through CPL, Multi, MIFR, then ATPL then rating? Osama and his plane are impressive.

Where's JC?

He already had his PPL and IFR and a bunch of TBM time.

4 months for Multi, Commercial and ME ATP and type rating which is totally doable when you're already a pilot and you've already been using Sheppard to pass your written exams... ha.

The longest part of my Commercial was studying for the written and having the check ride scheduled. Those DPE's can be booked out and then if the weather doesn't cooperate blah blah. It can drag on and on.



My mistake, Osama went from his SIFR to the Phenom 300 with his ATPL in 3 months (April 30th to July 30th) and he doesn't mention Sheppard which has the American exam tests, he did it in Canada where I only know of one flight school that has ATPL exam preps.

Glad we're back on track even though I can only dream of having any of these aircraft.

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However even if the benefit of the doubt is given, once you go above FL410 one of them has to have the mask on, unless there is something special exempting that in a P300?


You're right, it didn't register on me he was above 410, my bad, sorry.

Generally that is the practice it seems. Is it because of the growing awareness around the ill health effects of breathing pure oxygen rather than a mix with some CO2 content? I would guess no. But I would not like to be on pure o2 as a matter of routine.

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Under Canadian regulations, a mask must be worn above FL410. We do not have the equivalent of the FL350 rule in Canada (see below). If you carefully watch the video you’ll see that there is no footage above FL410.



Use of Oxygen
605.32 (1) Where an aircraft is operated at cabin-pressure-altitudes above 10,000 feet ASL but not exceeding 13,000 feet ASL, each crew member shall wear an oxygen mask and use supplemental oxygen for any part of the flight at those altitudes that is more than 30 minutes in duration.
(2) Where an aircraft is operated at cabin-pressure-altitudes above 13,000 feet ASL, each person on board the aircraft shall wear an oxygen mask and use supplemental oxygen for the duration of the flight at those altitudes.
(3) The pilot at the flight controls of an aircraft shall use an oxygen mask if
o (a) the aircraft is not equipped with quick-donning oxygen masks and is operated at or above flight level 250; or

· (b) the aircraft is equipped with quick-donning oxygen masks and is operated above flight level 410.




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However even if the benefit of the doubt is given, once you go above FL410 one of them has to have the mask on, unless there is something special exempting that in a P300?


You're right, it didn't register on me he was above 410, my bad, sorry.

Generally that is the practice it seems. Is it because of the growing awareness around the ill health effects of breathing pure oxygen rather than a mix with some CO2 content? I would guess no. But I would not like to be on pure o2 as a matter of routine.

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The only problem would be if he was in US airspace at the time, then stuck with those rules, if they are more restrictive. Though the US FAR starts out with some sort of verbiage about application to US registered aircraft. That might offer little protection. And we are still bound by our own rules in other countries, unless the local rule is more restrictive. Or our rules, if they are more restrictive. So for example in airspace where there may be no oxygen rules (or whatever kind of rule), we are bound by our own.


"But under operational rules, “you have to comply with ‘country of flight rules,’ and these are the operational rules,” Clark said, “so flying in Canada, you comply with the CAR operational rules. It is incumbent on the flight crew to be conversant with Canada’s operational rules if flying in its airspace.” The same can be said for Canadian CAR 604 operators crossing the border south into the U.S.: It is incumbent on them to be conversant with Part 91 rules, or at least the small differences between the two codifications. When in foreign airspace, we operate according to the local rules."

http://aviationweek.com/bca/crossing-ov ... and-canada

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15:11 in the second video.... over FL 41, no masks..
Also interesting that the altitude bug shown on the display is 39990....

So I wonder if the plane whines if the alt bug is above fl 40 without the mask on...


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15:11 in the second video.... over FL 41, no masks..
Also interesting that the altitude bug shown on the display is 39990....

So I wonder if the plane whines if the alt bug is above fl 40 without the mask on...


VSI going down at 1500 fpm VS engaged. I wasn't there but I would think he is in the descent to FL390 (bugged)?

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15:11 in the second video.... over FL 41, no masks..
Also interesting that the altitude bug shown on the display is 39990....

So I wonder if the plane whines if the alt bug is above fl 40 without the mask on...


No, it does not have a tie between the masks and the altimeter.

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Use of Oxygen
605.32 (1) Where an aircraft is operated at cabin-pressure-altitudes above 10,000 feet ASL but not exceeding 13,000 feet ASL, each crew member shall wear an oxygen mask and use supplemental oxygen for any part of the flight at those altitudes that is more than 30 minutes in duration.
(2) Where an aircraft is operated at cabin-pressure-altitudes above 13,000 feet ASL, each person on board the aircraft shall wear an oxygen mask and use supplemental oxygen for the duration of the flight at those altitudes.

Whoa. Thanks. I didn’t know that Canada has lower altitude requirements for supplemental oxygen.


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