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Ummmm,,,,,there is a big difference in fuel burn between the two,,,and thats a deal breaker for me.........Bonanza all day LONG !!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Am I crazy to be considering a 1969 Turbo 210?
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Ummmm,,,,,there is a big difference in fuel burn between the two,,,and thats a deal breaker for me.........Bonanza all day LONG !!!!


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I thought HP was HP?

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OK............

Have you ever heard of aerodynamics.



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OK............

Have you ever heard of aerodynamics.



OMG!!!!!! :whistle:


I believe his point, which I agree with, is that for a given engine and HP output, the fuel burn rate will be the same. The speed may differ for a given output which is driven by aerodynamics.

And these two planes have been compared ad nauseum, they’re very close in speed if all other factors are equal. (Weight, power settings etc)


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OK............

Have you ever heard of aerodynamics.



OMG!!!!!! :whistle:


I believe his point, which I agree with, is that for a given engine and HP output, the fuel burn rate will be the same. The speed may differ for a given output which is driven by aerodynamics.

And these two planes have been compared ad nauseum, they’re very close in speed if all other factors are equal. (Weight, power settings etc)


Bob gets it :bud:

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I've got a friend with an early 210. Bob's right. We've compared notes a few times. My IO520 powered J35 and his 210 match up fairly closely with speed and fuel burn. I don't remember the exact numbers but at similar power settings the old J35 wasn't much faster.

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OK............

Have you ever heard of aerodynamics.



OMG!!!!!! :whistle:


I believe his point, which I agree with, is that for a given engine and HP output, the fuel burn rate will be the same. The speed may differ for a given output which is driven by aerodynamics.

And these two planes have been compared ad nauseum, they’re very close in speed if all other factors are equal. (Weight, power settings etc)


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O.k.......We will agree to disagree! I can't see a Cessna 210 plane being as aerodynamic as a Bonanza?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

I'm gonna have to open another Johnny Walker Red on this one!!!


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O.k.......We will agree to disagree! I can't see a Cessna 210 plane being as aerodynamic as a Bonanza?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

I'm gonna have to open another Johnny Walker Red on this one!!!


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Enjoy the red, you’re confusing sexiness and lust with physics. The two are very similar in so many ways - wingspan, cabin width and height (so similar cross-section) that physics has to be similar.

https://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/all ... -centurion

Certainly on this board you’ll find no one arguing against which one wins the sexiness prize, self included.

Maybe make it black instead of red, you have the sexier plane.


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i have a friend with a 210 that we spend a lot of time in. great fast hauler. it likes fuel! love the two doors and easy entry. if I could buy a new 210 I would. just scared of plane that has not been made in 35 years. Staying with my 99 A36!


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the best variants are the 210L and later. I prefer the doors and the 550P if you can get it. the other one is the Larry Vitatoe conversion to the P210. Paul New says these are the 2 STC'd planes perform as the airframes were intended to. Found a 210L with 550P with no corrosion. took me 3 years. middle seat out. interior as close to a bonanza as was willing to spend. great aircraft. our family is 5, and stable in weather. Bo handles better. high wing helps with the heat too with no AC in the south. load carrying and speed unmatched with 1 piston. truck like..perhaps. I need and like the truck.
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Back in the late '70's when I bought my C182, the sales guy (remember when there were aircraft sales guys?) picked me up at Ft. Collins-Loveland (KFNL) now and flew me over to Grand Junction to look at it...he took me over in a, probably, '72 Turbo 210. Wow, I was stunned. Cruise climbed as I recall at about 800'/minute, right past Long's Peak at 14,000 something. I remember thinking that if I could ever have something like this, life could not be better.

'Course, I would not go back to that from the Baron. The choices we have to make!


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While my preference is for the Bo, there is nothing particularly aerodynamic about the nose bowl. The Atlantic Aero 550R is several knots faster on the same power. Seems like the classic high wing / low wing dilemma to me - I would be proud to own either. Obviously more proud to own the B ;)

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Would you be getting a RG or fixed gear 210 model? Both have their advantages and disadvantages.


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Would you be getting a RG or fixed gear 210 model? Both have their advantages and disadvantages.




A what? :crazy:



Perhaps he was referring to the C205, which was essentially a fixed gear C210, and was even known as the "Model 210-5"?
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