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 Post subject: Re: My New (to me) Cessna 182M
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So, last weekend when I flew home from Havasu in the 182 I noticed some oil on the right cowl flap so I took the cowling off when I got home to check things out. Turns out it was a push rod tube seal on the right rear cylinder head that was drizzling all over the place. I was able to borrow a spring compressor tool to get it all apart and discovered that the seal was installed wrong and was pinched from when it was Overhauled almost 400 hours ago. I'm surprised it lasted this long!

Anyway, it took me all day to change it as Continental's are a bitch to do this on without removing the intake manifold and exhaust system. The push rods are on the underside of the cylinders unlike the Lycoming's and you're basically working almost upside down under the engine. Here's what the damaged seal looked like. There was a chunk missing out of it and you can see by the stain line that it wasn't even seated in the cylinder head counter bore squarely.

The test run on the engine was good and there were no leaks but man, am I'm whipped! It's Margarita time.

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 Post subject: Re: My New (to me) Cessna 182M
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 Post subject: Re: My New (to me) Cessna 182M
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Thanks everyone for the reply. Sounds like the interior shades are a bad idea so I'll stick with the external cover for now. A few months ago I did clean the external cover where it contacts the windows but if the wind is blowing pretty hard I'll most likely to just leave it off to prevent any scratching. :shrug:

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I'm late to the party on this topic. I have the full cabin cover from Bruce's and can confirm the scratching issue under certain circumstances. On a desert trip I put the cover on, but after a couple of days of the wind and sand blowing it had lightly scratched the windshield by the cover moving around just slightly in the wind, but it polished right out. I would have been better off leaving the cover off, and pouring a bottle of water over the windshield to remove the dust before flight.

I also have the full Kennon shade set, and agree with the heating of the plastic windshield. A better use would be to put velcro tabs on the outside of the Bruce's cover and on the inside of the Kennon shades, and after putting on the cover, put the shades on the outside of the cover to reflect the heat away.

Another way to do that would be to put soft cloth on the inside of the heat shields and put the heat shields on the outside of the windshield attached by velcro spots on the windshield frame.


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 Post subject: Re: My New (to me) Cessna 182M
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Thanks everyone for the reply. Sounds like the interior shades are a bad idea so I'll stick with the external cover for now. A few months ago I did clean the external cover where it contacts the windows but if the wind is blowing pretty hard I'll most likely to just leave it off to prevent any scratching. :shrug:

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I'm late to the party on this topic. I have the full cabin cover from Bruce's and can confirm the scratching issue under certain circumstances. On a desert trip I put the cover on, but after a couple of days of the wind and sand blowing it had lightly scratched the windshield by the cover moving around just slightly in the wind, but it polished right out. I would have been better off leaving the cover off, and pouring a bottle of water over the windshield to remove the dust before flight.

I also have the full Kennon shade set, and agree with the heating of the plastic windshield. A better use would be to put velcro tabs on the outside of the Bruce's cover and on the inside of the Kennon shades, and after putting on the cover, put the shades on the outside of the cover to reflect the heat away.

Another way to do that would be to put soft cloth on the inside of the heat shields and put the heat shields on the outside of the windshield attached by velcro spots on the windshield frame.


Paul,
It's never too late to show up to the party. :rofl:

I've been using the full Bruce's cover on the 182 now for a couple of years and it's worked out fine. If the wind is going to blow pretty good I just leave it off but so far I only have a couple of minor scratches from it (on the corners) and haven't given it a good effort at polishing them out. Hopefully in the next year I'll move permanently to KHII and secure a hangar out there.

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 Post subject: Re: My New (to me) Cessna 182M
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I am NOT going to get the Sportsman STOL kit.

I'm NOT! I'm NOT! I'm NOT!


Yea, sure you're not. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: My New (to me) Cessna 182M
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So, I just spent some time going back through this post from the start to end and it's been fun. Looking back on it all I wouldn't do anything different. This has been a fun airplane that I'm putting over 100 hours a year on and I wouldn't change a thing. It's been an adventure just like I posted in the beginning and I have no regrets with my purchase. The RV-6A on the other hand only logged 15 hours last year as I just filled out the inquiry form for the county tax assessor. Decisions, decisions,.... :scratch: I don't wanna sell it! :sad:

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 Post subject: Re: My New (to me) Cessna 182M
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I am NOT going to get the Sportsman STOL kit.

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Yea, sure you're you're not. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: My New (to me) Cessna 182M
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Heck it’s already underway.
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I knew it wouldn't be long. :rofl:

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 Post subject: Re: My New (to me) Cessna 182M
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Kewl! You're going to really like Sportsman especially with the VG's. You'e going with VG's right? :scratch:

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 Post subject: Re: My New (to me) Cessna 182M
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Excuse my stupidity but the new leading edge of the Sportsman installs w/o removal of the original leading edge skin? How much UL does that cost?

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Excuse my stupidity but the new leading edge of the Sportsman installs w/o removal of the original leading edge skin? How much UL does that cost?

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Correct. The leading edge stays. It’s still visible through the wing landing lights (if you have those), which is useful for explaining how the STOL kit is installed to people.

It adds 15 pounds.

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Doesn't the mod change the Mean Aerodynamic Chord and thus the CG requirements?


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Kewl! You're going to really like Sportsman especially with the VG's. You'e going with VG's right? :scratch:

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Yes on the VGs.

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The first 182 I flew was a 182 M back when I learned to fly, then later instruct in them. That plane became my favorite airplane to fly, and I thought they couldn't improve on the handling and performance until the flight school bought a new '73 182P.

The noticeable difference was in the low speed handing with the new cuffed (or drooped) leading edge like the Sportsman leading edge.

The 182M was fairly docile in the stall but the P model is even more docile. Even in a deep stall the plane can be maneuvered , flying around doing turns while in the stall with power on.

I don't think it can match the Sportsman low speed handling, but the limitation for landing the 182P is the tail strike speed when it's brought in using power on, not that I'm advising that. ;)


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