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 Post subject: 210 to hawaii
PostPosted: 05 Jun 2021, 12:00 
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 Post subject: Re: 210 to hawaii
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Wow - interesting speed fluctuations. Wonder what gross weight is? Different airplane at MGW + ???.

Jim Barrett - a little info on FB. Evidently moving to Hawaii and ferrying plane with him.

2400 miles - with reserves about 250 gallons LOP? (15 GPH at 150 mph). That would be conservative on speed and maybe fuel burn.

Will be fun to watch - sure there is more info somewhere on the interweb.


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 Post subject: Re: 210 to hawaii
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Wow - interesting speed fluctuations. Wonder what gross weight is? Different airplane at MGW + ???.


Apparently only has 126 gallons from a post on fakebook.

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 Post subject: Re: 210 to hawaii
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Wow - interesting speed fluctuations. Wonder what gross weight is? Different airplane at MGW + ???.


Apparently only has 126 gallons from a post on fakebook.

Tim


Can’t be! Even running it until it was bone dry, you’d have to average only about 9 gallons per hour.

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 Post subject: Re: 210 to hawaii
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No way - Standard 210 is 90 gallons / long range tanks is 120 gallons. I bet that is with tips only considered. Has to be a honking ferry tank in there somewhere. He is currently at 150 mph - will speed up as he burns fuel but still....


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 Post subject: Re: 210 to hawaii
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126 would be with Flint tips. There is a west coast company that installs 160 gallon ferry tanks (name escapes me at the moment) and he probably had a tank installed. The middle and bench seat would have to be removed.


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 Post subject: Re: 210 to hawaii
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No way - Standard 210 is 90 gallons / long range tanks is 120 gallons. I bet that is with tips only considered. Has to be a honking ferry tank in there somewhere. He is currently at 150 mph - will speed up as he burns fuel but still....


The pilot is out of radar and ADS-B contact, so the speed readout that we are getting now is dated.

I must admit, while not being afraid of risk in general, flying a piston airplane nearly 14 hours over the open water is not my idea of fun.


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It is a 1967 210B with an IO470 (unless upgraded). Low Gross Weight around 3000. Don't know what options were on fuel tanks or what a 470 at LOP will do? May be a photography platform based on his business name?


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When I was at Cessna, I heard that they (not sure who) used to ferry airplanes down to the 172 level to Australia, tanked of course.

They would fly in a sizable formation so that if one went down, another could stay at the location to direct the rescue and then likely ditch also.

Not sure if what I heard was true.


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That is a 1962 Cessna 210B - first year of the wide fuselage and 2nd to last year with the 260hp IO-470.

Many of those went off the line with short tanks - 30 gal per side bladders.

Most, if not all, of the 1960 and 1961 210's were 55 or 57 gal usable, can't remember which. By the time they went to the IO-520 in the 1964 210D it was very rare to see anything but the 80 gal tanks.

You can get that engine down to 9 gph but you will not be doing much more than about 120 mph indicated! Maybe even a bit slower with the wide-body fuselage.


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I have read stories of smugglers who would leave Boulder Colorado with a T210 with 240 gal of fuel on board.

Non-stop to Jamaica without talking to anyone. All with 1980's vintage radio gear!

That takes ignorance or balls, or a mix of the two in my book!


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On Flightaware it shows a flight from Mississippi to California about 6 weeks ago. A warmup perhaps? Only 1500 or so miles.


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I was told by the guy at Tropical Bird Flight Service on Kona that airplanes go to Hawaii to die. :lol:

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Flying over the mountains in the West - no problem. Long water flight in a single engine piston - I will be paying someone to ferry it over. I have always had a water phobia. Besides the usual need to stretch my legs after 3-4 hours of flying plus take a piss break - what you do if you need to take a number 2 and you're 11 hours from Hilo?

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