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Watching a video today and there's a low wing piston twin on the ramp I don't recognize. Screen grab is the best I could do...


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Cessna T303 Crusader?

I don't think so...the nose and windows are different.


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Commander 700.

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Never heard of it, but I just googled it and I'm pretty sure you're right.

I don't know anything about it. Decent plane?

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49 made, joint program with Fuji.

I think there are 12 on the US registry.

No idea on its qualities or features.

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49 made, joint program with Fuji.

I think there are 12 on the US registry.

No idea on its qualities or features.

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Fascinating. Thanks.


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I don't know anything about it. Decent plane?

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I looked into them once. Big cabin. Allegedly made with standard parts (ie not an orphan mostly)

Main problem was that it was heavy and underpowered. Proposed adequately powered turbine model never materialized.


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Good plane, but a bit orphaned. A little underpowered, but big cabin and pressurized. One of the last " modern" twin pistons developed, like the T303 Crusader.

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Here's a link to an old Flying magazine Commander 700 pilot report from the May 1978 issue. The article starts on page 38.

https://books.google.com/books?id=iK7AG ... &q&f=false

It's kinda fun to scroll through the old Flying mags from the 70s and 80s on that site. Lots of interesting pilot reports from the heyday of general aviation.


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Two of them based at KFXE for the same owner.

Video was at KFXE so that's got to be one of them.


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A little underpowered

Uh, yeah.

The Flying article said:

"Single-engine climb gradient at 101 kts (Vyse) ..... 2.56 ft per nm"

Climb gradient measured to 1/00th a foot? That's an 1/8th of an inch!

Maybe they meant 256 ft per nm, but that doesn't compute with a SE climb rate of 273 FPM at 101 knots (that's 162 ft per nm).

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