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Am I the only one that read Bax Seat in that mag ?

How about the article on bad radio etiquette on page 54?

Still having the same problems we had 40 years ago...

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Am I the only one that read Bax Seat in that mag ?
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No, I loved Bax Seat :thumbup: :cheers: :D

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Am I the only one that read Bax Seat in that mag ?
:popcorn: :btt:

I always read the old Gordon Baxter stories, but my favorite Flying writer was Len Morgan. His stories about flying the line for Braniff are so entertaining, and some of the issues he wrote about back then are still applicable today.

Oh, uh...the Commander 700. I towed and fueled one once when I worked line service at Million Air in my former life. Never flew one. They look pretty cool though!


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Am I the only one that read Bax Seat in that mag ?
:popcorn: :btt:

I always read the old Gordon Baxter stories, but my favorite Flying writer was Len Morgan. His stories about flying the line for Braniff are so entertaining, and some of the issues he wrote about back then are still applicable today.

Oh, uh...the Commander 700. I towed and fueled one once when I worked line service at Million Air in my former life. Never flew one. They look pretty cool though!


Hi Jim,

Also a fan of Len Morgan's writing.

I have his books, but decided to go back and read his articles one by one. He started in late 78 (I think), and I want to say his last regular article was in 2002.

But as an aside, I've also read some of the other articles in each issue (ILAFFT, Collins, etc) and Mike is right. Most if not all of what you read are about the same issues we deal with today.

Although some are worse. As you move into the mid-80s, they thought the GA recession was just temporary. Kinda of like watching a movie about the Titanic. All the people stories are interesting but in the end, you know the boat is going to sink.

But the other interesting thing are all the ideas that came and went. One-off airplane models, weird avionics, or engine ideas that never panned out (the Tiara engines, for example).

Kinda funny to see all the smoking ads...

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The articles from the '70s when RNAV was a new thing are fun to read, as well as the '80s articles when EFIS displays were starting to hit the market. Some writers (Collins, McClellan) wondered if EFIS was just a temporary fad or could they remain on the market for the long term.

For the MU-2 fans on this site, here's an entertaining article from the June '86 issue. Starts on page 52; Collins went to DAL to fly a '75 MU-2M that a certain well-known dealer had for sale at the time:
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We had one in the flight test department in college. It was serial #2, donated to the school. I don't believe they still have it. Our prof (retired USAF test pilot) described it as a big, comfortable, slow pig if my memory serves. I never got a ride, unfortunately. I bet with a pair of turboprops it would've been a great plane.


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I don't know anything about it. Decent plane?

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I looked into them once. Big cabin. Allegedly made with standard parts (ie not an orphan mostly)

Main problem was that it was heavy and underpowered. Proposed adequately powered turbine model never materialized.


I also happen to be heavy and very under powered, but I digress. :btt:

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There was (is?) a 700 based in Myrtle Beach, SC.

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