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 Post subject: Re: Cessna Citation 500 Series vs Citation Jet 525 Series
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The 500 is awesome short field airplane. 2900ft strip at 4400ft elevation at 73 degrees, 1700lbs two people.

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 Post subject: Re: Cessna Citation 500 Series vs Citation Jet 525 Series
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The 500 is awesome short field airplane. 2900ft strip at 4400ft elevation at 73 degrees, 1700lbs two people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzBInHDx6RA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBSaQaSg9jo

Great videos! Especially the one from the end of the runway.

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I did not see information this when I did a search of the thread. Does the 1st version of the Citation Jet have altitude limitation for anti ice operation? I hear FL260 since ITT limited. Can anyone confirm?
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You rarely use engine anti ace in legacy citations.


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 Post subject: Re: Cessna Citation 500 Series vs Citation Jet 525 Series
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You rarely use engine anti ace in legacy citations.



Right. Only in visible moisture below 10C. Citations don't encounter those conditions much. :liar:

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 Post subject: Re: Cessna Citation 500 Series vs Citation Jet 525 Series
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I did not see information this when I did a search of the thread. Does the 1st version of the Citation Jet have altitude limitation for anti ice operation? I hear FL260 since ITT limited. Can anyone confirm?
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Neil discusses a limitation on SE performance with bleed systems on. I believe he is referring to a straight CJ. Alex G?

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Ah thanks. I think it is an SE item as you eluded.
The c501 I flew notes anti ice in visible moisture down to -30 I believe.


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Ah thanks. I think it is an SE item as you eluded.
The c501 I flew notes anti ice in visible moisture down to -30 I believe.


I actually know of no time that it is allowed to be turned off below 10c in visible moisture. I think people get confused because they are trained that ice won’t form on wings below -30. Not true of an engine prob. Bwtfdik?


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I did not see information this when I did a search of the thread. Does the 1st version of the Citation Jet have altitude limitation for anti ice operation? I hear FL260 since ITT limited. Can anyone confirm?
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Neil discusses a limitation on SE performance with bleed systems on. I believe he is referring to a straight CJ. Alex G?

There are no such limitations on the CitationJet - from a performance standpoint, the de-ice system affects performance but not to the extreme mentioned in the article (would have to go to the performance tables and look), and there is no such FL260 ITT driven limit.

These are the only limitations on the OM and AFM for the de ice system.

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