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Post subject: Re: Challenger 300  Posted: 16 Feb 2018, 17:01 |
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Well I am pretty new to the Falcon family only 4 years on a 2000S, I have been a Bombardier guy since early 2000s. I am happy to hear that Embraer has a good product and doing well. On the delivery side I saw 14 450's and 15 500's in 2017 and a combined 49 at Dassault, to be fair I do not know the ratio... neither sure how 450/500 compare on cabin size and range to a 2000. Obviously if you include the commercial fleet of course Embraer is leading 
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Post subject: Re: Challenger 300 Posted: 21 Feb 2018, 09:30 |
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Currently flying a Challenger 300 for a charter company, 70+ hours per month.
All the stuff in the thread is right on.
It’s a great plane.
Good runway performance (including wet & contaminated ops). Solid performance at shorter runways (Caribbean islands, APF, CRQ, etc). High altitude runways (ASE, TEX, JAC) are doable with full pax loads (this assumes you have an APG subscription).
If you are around ISA temps and under about 34,000 lbs (MTOW of 38,850), you can go up to FL450 and reap some fuel savings.
Large, comforable cabin. Comfortable flight deck as well, and the Proline 21/FMS avionics package is nicely integrated.
Like others have said an electrical airplane. Literally step one of the troubleshooting process (I.e. often before even calling maintenance control) is to shut it down, disconnect the batteries, wait 10 minutes, then power it back up. Solves most issues.
It’s a joy to fly.
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Post subject: Re: Challenger 300 Posted: 21 Feb 2018, 09:32 |
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Username Protected wrote: Like others have said an electrical airplane. Literally step one of the troubleshooting process (I.e. often before even calling maintenance control) is to shut it down, disconnect the batteries, wait 10 minutes, then power it back up. Solves most issues.
Is that hard to do in flight? (I'm picturing a battery box in the center console and a wrench hanging from a hook on the panel) 
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Post subject: Re: Challenger 300 Posted: 21 Feb 2018, 10:11 |
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Username Protected wrote: High altitude runways (ASE, TEX, JAC) are doable with full pax loads (this assumes you have an APG subscription). How does the airplane know to perform better if you have an APG subscription? Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: Challenger 300 Posted: 21 Feb 2018, 10:14 |
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Username Protected wrote: High altitude runways (ASE, TEX, JAC) are doable with full pax loads (this assumes you have an APG subscription). How does the airplane know to perform better if you have an APG subscription? Mike C.
I think you are aware APG provides alternative departure instructions that give legal clearance
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Post subject: Re: Challenger 300 Posted: 21 Feb 2018, 12:36 |
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Username Protected wrote: Like others have said an electrical airplane. Literally step one of the troubleshooting process (I.e. often before even calling maintenance control) is to shut it down, disconnect the batteries, wait 10 minutes, then power it back up. Solves most issues.
Is that hard to do in flight? (I'm picturing a battery box in the center console and a wrench hanging from a hook on the panel)
That would be cool
Inflight it is “follow the Quick Reference Handbook (QRH).”
On the ground is usually call maintenance control, who tells what C/B to reset, if that doesn’t fix it, the the whole “turn it off and back on again bit,” if that doesn’t work then it’s time to get it fixed or defer IAW the MEL/CDL.
Batteries are easily accessed via a door located on the side of the fuselage under the cargo door. Normal operator SOP is to disconnect them anytime one is away from the plane.
Startup electrical faults can be minimized by letting the avionics run all the BIT checks, etc after turning on the batteries, and before turning on the APU. In other words, patience.
Mark addressed the APG question perfectly.
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