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 Post subject: Cessna 421 value?
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Why is this plane only worth <$125k?

https://www.controller.com/listings/air ... essna-421b


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The negatives on this plane are:
1. Why did it need new bottoms on both engines?
2. No built in air conditioning, It may have JB air in the divider which is crap, this would kill it for me.
3. Non wass 530.
4. Only 183 gal tanks
5. The STOL kit is heavy and slows the plane .
6. Almost 8k TT

I love 421Bs, but I'd pass on this one.

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Sure looks nice from the pics!

AC is a must, you would sweat your rear off without it, you would be soaking wet with every flight in the summer. I would never “ never” have a 421 without it.

I have the RSTOL in my 421 and really like it.

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 Post subject: Re: Cessna 421 value?
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There are probably a number of other items not listed such as multiple damage events, etc.

Good luck

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It's also a very early B model so it's not FIKI. B's were only FIKI capable in '75 & '76 I believe.

Not a bad bird from the pics, but most buyers would be better off buying an early C for $300ish. Considering the operating costs of one of these planes are $50-$100k a year, most buyers in the 400 series market aren't looking for the cheapest bird to buy.

Ironically, Dan may have been better suited listing this plane for $225k. $125k does make it feel like something's wrong with it.

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Looks like 25 years of missing logbooks. Still a very decent aircraft.

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It's also a very early B model so it's not FIKI. B's were only FIKI capable in '75 & '76 I believe.

1975 B was the only FIKI capable B model.

1976 is a C model. All C models are FIKI capable.

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1. Why did it need new bottoms on both engines?

Sudden stoppage on both engines apparently.


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Nice looking 414 here:

https://www.controller.com/listings/air ... essna-414a

And it seems to be in this auction next month:

https://www.proxibid.com/aspr/1979-CESS ... d=40117427


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it also has an older Bendix autopilot that may or may not work and may or may not be repairable


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For $125k asking, you're damn lucky to get any autopilot working or not! I think this B model is a lot of cluck for the buck for the right owner.

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Looks like 25 years of missing logbooks. Still a very decent aircraft.


25 YEARS of missing records?!?!?! There is so much information that cannot be accounted for. With that many years missing my guess (and that is all it is) is that the aircraft suffered at least one major damage event and someone thought it was a great idea to discard the log books. Or, the aircraft was repoed at some point in its past and the owner kept/destroyed those records. Or, the records may have been destroyed by accident (fire, flood, etc.) where they were stored.

Pricing aside, why consider this one when there are better aircraft out there?

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Well to be fair to the seller it is just that the files that are shared don’t show. They could be elsewhere.

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Why is this plane only worth <$125k?

https://www.controller.com/listings/air ... essna-421b


70 hrs last 3 years. May the force (and a trust fund) be with you.


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The ad says that they have complete logs. Again, unless you're not going to fly in the summer, there aren't many people that will buy a 421 without A/C. Also, the only reason I could imagine both engines needing a bottom, would be a belly landing?

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