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Post subject: Re: Cessna 310L overhaul and ADSB cost Posted: 15 Jan 2018, 22:08 |
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Joined: 09/05/12 Posts: 676 Post Likes: +485 Location: Vero Beach, FL
Aircraft: C310R, E55P, H130T2
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Love my 310. I’d agree around $30k per engine is a good working number from a reputable engine shop. Make sure you find one with a side brace kit installed or plan accordingly in negotiations. Side brace kit installed is around $2k in parts and 100hrs of labor.
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Post subject: Re: Cessna 310L overhaul and ADSB cost Posted: 15 Jan 2018, 22:11 |
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Joined: 03/08/14 Posts: 419 Post Likes: +219 Location: LL10
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Username Protected wrote: Out of the last 3 engines I've had to overhaul, two were field* overhauls, one was a factory rebuilt.
Both field overhauls were quite good, not cheapest possible. The factory overhaul was very good actually and was my best path with a non-VAR crank that Continental took back with no extra charge.
A "field" overhaul being one done by someone other than the factory.
Field overhauls include big engines shops like Triad, RAM and Western Skyways, to your local mechanic's shop.
My field overhauls were done by smaller but reputable engines shops, who primarily did engine work.
I have never heard of any issue exporting an aircraft with a field overhaul. Larry, I don't know what the actual definition of a "field overhaul" is, but I am talking about the "spray paint" overhaul that was mentioned earlier. This is done outside of a reputable engine shop. Eric
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Post subject: Re: Cessna 310L overhaul and ADSB cost Posted: 15 Jan 2018, 22:32 |
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Joined: 08/21/14 Posts: 280 Post Likes: +86 Location: KPDK
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The C310 is a great airplane to fly. Best of all, the 310 is truly the best looking piston twin out there. If you're nostalgic you'll feel like Sky King. The 470 engine is very strong. If it's not blowing oil all over the gear, you've got years of flying before you need an engine overhaul.
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Post subject: Re: Cessna 310L overhaul and ADSB cost Posted: 16 Jan 2018, 02:23 |
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Joined: 06/17/14 Posts: 5023 Post Likes: +1952 Location: KJYO
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This is hijacking your thread and the overhaul discussion likely needs to be over in Engine Talk. If you ask two pilots what a field overhaul is, you may get five different answers within the next 30 minutes and all five answers may be right! However, FAR 43.2 does not use the term field overhaul, new limit overhaul, service limit overhaul. It also doesn't discern between factory reman, factory remanufactured, or zero-time overhaul. The collective "we", and some clever marketing types, do that to discern between work the factory does and work everyone else does, including highly reputable shops. As it relates to overhauls, you either have rebuilt or overhaul. Yes, may even find a few field overhauls completed and legally signed off by people that aren't A&Ps. I have a few T53 and T700s with my signature and our maintenance chief's signature out there somewhere. I love reading logs of surplus military aircraft. After that bit of hangar flying is done, and if you are done flying for the day, grab a cold one and sit back for some opinions on SMOH, "SFRM", and SNEW. Most of us are familiar with these articles but I will post them anyway for the new owners that hit this thread: www.aviationconsumer.com/issues/49_5/ed ... 053-1.htmlhttp://blog.overhaulbids.com/learning-faqs/http://www.donmaxwell.com/publications/ ... 0Field.htm
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Post subject: Re: Cessna 310L overhaul and ADSB cost Posted: 16 Jan 2018, 14:51 |
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Joined: 11/03/08 Posts: 14580 Post Likes: +22961 Location: Peachtree City GA / Stoke-On-Trent UK
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Username Protected wrote: 2-If you want to sell the aircraft to another country like Canada, it will not be accepted. please cite a specific example I've ferried tons of planes being exported to countries that required majors to be within their manufacturer's TBO. None of them cared who did the OH, just that the book said it was done. If your contention was true, only aircraft with factory reman's would be able to be exported.
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Post subject: Re: Cessna 310L overhaul and ADSB cost Posted: 16 Jan 2018, 14:53 |
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Joined: 11/03/08 Posts: 14580 Post Likes: +22961 Location: Peachtree City GA / Stoke-On-Trent UK
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Username Protected wrote: My interpretation of field OH is where an A&P does it without shop support.
If you’re terminology includes approved maintenance organizations, then my understanding is mistaken.
There have been aircraft rejected for Canadian import if the aircraft hasn’t been maintained by approved shops.
Murray there are only 2 types of overhauls: 1. factory (by the original manufacturer) 2. everything else no one does an OH without "shop support". I overhauled my last travel air's engines in my garage at home but the case, crank, cam, etc etc went out to all the same places that most "engine shops" around here send those same parts to
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Post subject: Re: Cessna 310L overhaul and ADSB cost Posted: 16 Jan 2018, 15:32 |
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Joined: 05/29/14 Posts: 2886 Post Likes: +2940 Location: CEA3
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Guys, I’m the Avionics tech and the local mechanic who’s imported lots of airplanes will ask if the engine was overhauled by a certified overhaul organization, or in the US, an FAA repair station If not, then that phone call or email just saved a trip to look at it. I’m telling this forum, to educate someone who may be tempted to save money, but not realize he’s impacting the potential resale value. Here’s a couple of links; http://www.coastdogaviation.com/ANJnew.pdfhttps://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/civilaviation/ ... 6-2695.htmMurray
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Post subject: Re: Cessna 310L overhaul and ADSB cost Posted: 16 Jan 2018, 15:49 |
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Joined: 11/03/08 Posts: 14580 Post Likes: +22961 Location: Peachtree City GA / Stoke-On-Trent UK
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Username Protected wrote: I’m telling this forum, to educate someone who may be tempted to save money, but not realize he’s impacting the potential resale value. no, all you are doing is conveying the opinion of your local mechanic.
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Post subject: Re: Cessna 310L overhaul and ADSB cost Posted: 16 Jan 2018, 17:04 |
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Joined: 01/25/15 Posts: 218 Post Likes: +191
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Username Protected wrote: Guys, I’m the Avionics tech and the local mechanic who’s imported lots of airplanes will ask if the engine was overhauled by a certified overhaul organization. If not, then that phone call or email just saved a trip to look at it. I’m telling this forum, to educate someone who may be tempted to save money, but not realize he’s impacting the potential resale value. Here’s a couple of links; http://www.coastdogaviation.com/ANJnew.pdfhttps://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/civilaviation/ ... 6-2695.htmMurray There is no such thing as "certified overhaul organization".
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Post subject: Re: Cessna 310L overhaul and ADSB cost Posted: 16 Jan 2018, 20:47 |
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Joined: 05/29/14 Posts: 2886 Post Likes: +2940 Location: CEA3
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Username Protected wrote: I’m telling this forum, to educate someone who may be tempted to save money, but not realize he’s impacting the potential resale value. no, all you are doing is conveying the opinion of your local mechanic.
Hmmm, and the DER that oversees the import, and a I guess the Honourable Minister of Transport who issued MSI 26.
Murray
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Post subject: Re: Cessna 310L overhaul and ADSB cost Posted: 16 Jan 2018, 21:39 |
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Joined: 05/23/08 Posts: 6059 Post Likes: +703 Location: CMB7, Ottawa, Canada
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I agree with JEFF, this is not true. Username Protected wrote: 2-If you want to sell the aircraft to another country like Canada, it will not be accepted. please cite a specific example I've ferried tons of planes being exported to countries that required majors to be within their manufacturer's TBO. None of them cared who did the OH, just that the book said it was done. If your contention was true, only aircraft with factory reman's would be able to be exported.
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