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Post subject: Bensen B-8 Gyrocopers Anyone? Posted: 03 Jan 2018, 14:23 |
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Joined: 10/10/14 Posts: 1492 Post Likes: +1205 Location: St George UT
Aircraft: Mooney D 1964
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Just thinking of going a different way for fun Anyone here really into Bensen Gyros? I actually have a full set of plans from years ago on the shelf somewhere. Used to collect airplane plans in my youth
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Post subject: Re: Bensen B-8 Gyrocopers Anyone? Posted: 03 Jan 2018, 15:19 |
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Joined: 08/16/15 Posts: 3003 Post Likes: +5595 Location: Portland, OR
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We had one of those at our flight school field. Impossible to see the dude, and he used a handheld radio.. so the only way to know he was in the pattern was to listen for a KSHAHKSHSKTSTTHTHSASSSTTHH every 60 seconds or so. Fourth one was him on final, so you had to bob your head around to disambiguate him from the windscreen bugs, lest he add to their number.
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Post subject: Re: Bensen B-8 Gyrocopers Anyone? Posted: 03 Jan 2018, 15:34 |
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Joined: 12/12/07 Posts: 2948 Post Likes: +1462 Company: Stonehouse Supply,Inc. Location: Wellington-Palm Beach, Florida
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Username Protected wrote: We had one of those at our flight school field. Impossible to see the dude, and he used a handheld radio.. so the only way to know he was in the pattern was to listen for a KSHAHKSHSKTSTTHTHSASSSTTHH every 60 seconds or so. Fourth one was him on final, so you had to bob your head around to disambiguate him from the windscreen bugs, lest he add to their number. Mike, you crack me up. Well said as usual. I vote we add this to the "Brannigan-isms" thread.............. You say there isn't one? Well, there should be! And that's all I have to say about that!
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Post subject: Re: Bensen B-8 Gyrocopers Anyone? Posted: 03 Jan 2018, 22:02 |
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Joined: 10/10/14 Posts: 1492 Post Likes: +1205 Location: St George UT
Aircraft: Mooney D 1964
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Actually from what I've seen the newer models of Bensens have been modified with a horizontal tail and a dropped rudder for better control. Saw Ken Brock way back in the 70s flying his in a demo at an air show at KVNY. He flew them for decades (but got beat down by one also). Many still flying today. From what I have learned there has never been an in flight breakup due to the design (pilot error? Yes). Most of the damaged ones (and fatalities) have come from low or no time or training in them. Many over the years (decades ago) got their first ride, their first lesson and their first solo all on the same flight. Bensen's ancient two part training videos are available on utube. Teach yourself how to fly one. Early ones had an overhead yoke connection to the rotor head all the ones today use a conventional stick. Bensen himself didn't seem to have any problems. Maybe its no different than a Cirrus today? In over your head, aircraft stops levitating. Going to spend a day looking at them at OSH this year.
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Post subject: Re: Bensen B-8 Gyrocopers Anyone? Posted: 08 Jan 2018, 22:14 |
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Joined: 12/31/14 Posts: 162 Post Likes: +43
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No ... good friend killed in one . Was a great race car driver and very high skill level. My suggestion is ultra light .
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Post subject: Re: Bensen B-8 Gyrocopers Anyone? Posted: 09 Jan 2018, 07:21 |
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Username Protected wrote: No ... good friend killed in one . Was a great race car driver and very high skill level. My suggestion is ultra light . What kind of gyro?
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Post subject: Re: Bensen B-8 Gyrocopers Anyone? Posted: 09 Jan 2018, 11:27 |
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Joined: 10/10/14 Posts: 1492 Post Likes: +1205 Location: St George UT
Aircraft: Mooney D 1964
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I'm sorry for your loss, I really am I am also interested in the particulars of the accident, if you could share them.
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Post subject: Re: Bensen B-8 Gyrocopers Anyone? Posted: 09 Jan 2018, 12:01 |
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Joined: 08/06/10 Posts: 15 Post Likes: +1
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About 15 years ago I went to a Wallis day. Lots of gyros, lots of microlights and lots of light aircraft. I got a flight in a gyro, the make escapes me but I do remember that it was powered by a Subaru engine. When I told the guy fkying it the I had soloed in the R22 a couple of weeks previously he let me fly it. Not very nice, pretty light in pitch and really heavy in roll. I can't remember what the rudder felt like so maybe there were no pedals on my side. I had not been too impressed by the takeoff performance and when I asked him he blamed the hot day. It was hot but some of the Jodels were using a similar amount of grass as the gyros.
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Post subject: Re: Bensen B-8 Gyrocopers Anyone? Posted: 09 Jan 2018, 12:32 |
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Joined: 06/07/10 Posts: 8249 Post Likes: +7268 Location: Boise, ID (S78)
Aircraft: 1964 Bonanza S35
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Not a Bensen, but my buddy just went to Italy and built 51% of one of these. Attachment: 7295DB86-0F3A-48D3-A2CC-CDEC5CEC2CBA.jpeg
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Post subject: Re: Bensen B-8 Gyrocopers Anyone? Posted: 10 Jan 2018, 11:01 |
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Joined: 08/06/10 Posts: 15 Post Likes: +1
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Username Protected wrote: Did it have the little motor to pre-spin the rotor? Yes, it did have a spin up mechanism. Not a little motor but a drive from the main engine.
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Post subject: Re: Bensen B-8 Gyrocopers Anyone? Posted: 13 Jan 2018, 14:00 |
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Joined: 01/29/09 Posts: 4697 Post Likes: +2404 Company: retired corporate mostly Location: Chico,California KCIC/CL56
Aircraft: 1956 Champion 7EC
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There was one of these at Hangar 1 in Opa Locka FL back in the late 60s. Always thought it looked interesting, I don't remember ever seeing it fly. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_%26_Space_18AAttachment: 450px-Air_Space_18A.jpg
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