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 Post subject: Re: The Ultimate Pilatus PC12 Thread!
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Mikko, I think calling the 45 dangerous is a bit of a stretch. While heavy in roll, after a few hours in the airplane you don't even notice it and it feels like anything else. :thumbup:


Agreed, have a few hours with Sean S in them and they are heavier on the controls but no way dangerous.

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Mikko, I think calling the 45 dangerous is a bit of a stretch. While heavy in roll, after a few hours in the airplane you don't even notice it and it feels like anything else. :thumbup:


Agreed, have a few hours with Sean S in them and they are heavier on the controls but no way dangerous.


No matter how many pushups you've done, flying in strong turbulence/strong winds, you cannot get full aileron deflection with one arm, so you'll have to take your hand off the PCL. This happens all the time even with our 5000+ hour guys.

So far, I've had to execute one go-around because of this. Hit a nasty gust/rotor and couldn't keep the plane straight with just one hand -> PCL forward and had to use two hands on the yoke to keep the thing under control.

Dangerous might be a strong word, but it is very uncomfortable. 47-> are smooth as butter compared to legacies. Flying a legacy on a good day, no problems at all. I actually prefer the control feel of a legacy. It's when things get a bit sporty, you really miss those Flettners...

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In Park City this weekend. Flew up Monday from Texas with my family in the 425. Now watching a blizzard out the condo sliding doors.

I searched this thread and a few others.

I would like to know what early model PC-12/45’s are bringing these days? Basically, what’s the entry fee into PC-12 world? Not a beater freight dog, but a decent airplane for business and family travel. Can you find one for $1.5M?

I have six kids (all girls) and the Conquest works for now, but grandma wants to come sometimes. Also, I have several trips every year where I would like to bring more employees.

I’m not in the market now but perhaps in the next year or two.

Thanks,
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I have six kids (all girls)


May the lord have mercy upon your poor soul. ;) :bugeye: :clap: :peace: :thumbup:

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https://www.controller.com/listings/air ... raft-1900c

Good looking C model to haul the family around.

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https://www.controller.com/listings/aircraft/for-sale/23749849/1988-beechcraft-1900c

Good looking C model to haul the family around.

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I used to dream about 1900s. There used to be one for sale that was all decked out executive style. Wish they didn’t require 2 pilots. This one has 25k TT. Sheesh


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1900 can be flown SP.

Per FAA...

(6) To date, the FAA permits applicants to perform pilot type rating practical tests as a single pilot or with an SIC in the following airplanes:
(a) Cessna 501. (b) Cessna 525. (c) Cessna 551. (d) Raytheon390.
(e) Beech 300 that are certificated under SFAR41 and the Beech B300 and B300C that are certificated in the commuter category.
(f) Beech 1900 and Beech 1900C that are certificated under SFAR 41 and the Beech 1900D that is certificated in the commuter category.


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25k TT on that thing is just getting broken in .

Only about 800 hrs/yr so far.

Would be a fun airplane to load it up & take to OSH.


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25k TT on that thing is just getting broken in .

Only about 800 hrs/yr so far.

Would be a fun airplane to load it up & take to OSH.

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And it has wooden floorboards. The panel looks like Apollo 11


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25k TT on that thing is just getting broken in .

Only about 800 hrs/yr so far.

Would be a fun airplane to load it up & take to OSH.


HoHoHo Scott,

You and crew would have bragging rights in Vintage among the B18’s. Nobody else would bring as much food, booze, tables, camping gear etc than you...

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I would like to know what early model PC-12/45’s are bringing these days? Basically, what’s the entry fee into PC-12 world? Not a beater freight dog, but a decent airplane for business and family travel. Can you find one for $1.5M?
John


John,
In the current market, you will need 2m to find something decent. The /45s are in demand and limited so many of the lower time airframes have gone up in value. Also if you need 10 seats, those aircraft go for a premium. Most of the aircraft that were delivered with 8 seats were only plumbed for oxygen for 8 seats. Adding the oxygen and additional seats is 80k+. You could just add the seats but not legally.

The good news is that if you do purchase a /45 or /47 you will most likely get that value back and possibly more when you sell.


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May the lord have mercy upon your poor soul. ;) :bugeye: :clap: :peace: :thumbup:

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