Looking for some suggestions boys and girls. Partnering up with a few Army pilots on a bird for a couple of us to work on our commercials and a couple to knock out their ATPs. We're looking for a trainer, musts are IFR platform, retractable gear, and CS prop. 4 seats is also good, and I think we'd like to fly behind an LY 360 for it's proven reliabilty, when it's not being used buy us it'll most likely be used by a local school also. Arrow's pop to mind first, but what am I missing?
Cheers

Bonanza?

If they want an ATP its gonna need to be a multi. Single engine ATP doesn't do you much good.

You've already said it: Arrow. Or Cutlass or Cardinal RG.

I wouldn't recommend a Bonanza and I really wouldn't recommend a Sierra, though someone will have made that recommendation by the time I'm done typing.

Arrow will give you what you want.

172RG. Great little airplane. I did my commercial in one. Pretty fast too.

Not sure how much your colleagues are tracking that, Daryn, but I figure what you meant here is your ATP-bound friends are planning to get those airplane PIC hours.

Thats a valid point. They will need to switch airframes in time, they just need to build fix wing hrs for now.

Not sure how much your colleagues are tracking that, Daryn, but I figure what you meant here is your ATP-bound friends are planning to get those airplane PIC hours.

You can do the comm in two planes - the bulk of the ride in a 172 and an Arrow (or PC12 or whatever) for a loop around the pattern to play with gear.

I suggest getting a 172.

You can’t get the multi ATP without doing an ATP-CTP course now anyway. The more reasonable path would be getting your single and multi commercial ratings now and letting the future employer put you through the ATP class when you get typed.

Can you still get Multi Commercial before Single, and do the whole single ride in a fixed gear plane? That was ATP's way, and it made just a ton of sense to me.

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I'd get a light twin for 60k and build that multi time. You can find disposable travel airs and barons around the 40k mark easily enough and just flog em.

If they're set on single, I'd only consider cutlass or arrow. If cutlass, inspect the gear saddles very closely, they're expensive to fix when they crack. i liked the little 172RG we had, way more than the other 172s.

Not sure what you thinking put I have been looking at IFR 172 for my daughters to learn to fly in. If thinking something at Nampa let me know maybe we can partner in something. Sounds like you already have a group but would love to discuss.


Todd

Travelair

I hate to say it... t-craft will get this done cheap and quickly. You're not going to beat $73/hr.

Now if you want a 172, that's another story. I'll PM you a partnership I know of for sale in an IFR 172.