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Post subject: Re: Flying the TBM 850  Posted: 12 Dec 2017, 07:38 |
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Username Protected wrote: Nice Marc! Love the G1000... My IMC approach with a VFR landing at Max’s in October 2016. Excuse me that was departing...  Here i was having a nice, calm, smooth, happy, satisfied pre-Christmas morning. You TBM guys just went and upset it all, again. I want one so bad! It’s almost need.....  And my instructor thinks it would be a piece of cake to transition me......
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Post subject: Re: Flying the TBM 850 Posted: 12 Dec 2017, 09:50 |
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Username Protected wrote: Tell us about baggage.
How many normal sized suitcases can you fit? How difficult to load with and without large door? How do ramp and hangar fees differ from, say, a King Air? Greg took the words out of my mouth! Where do you put bags if you have 2 or 3 people in the back seats? Most importantly, where can I put my golf clubs?
Who cares about golf bags? I don't play golf. Can you get folding clubs? 
The TBM reminds me of my A36 only bigger. The luggage compartment holds 220 lbs. I can pretty easily get luggage for 4 in it. On a recent trip to Wyoming we had 4 suitcases of various sizes, duffels and 4 hanging bags with no problem. I think you can get 3 or 4 large suitcases in there. We tend to use roll aboard sized bags, duffels and hanging bags because they work better for us and they are certainly easier to fit.
A lot of owners take out either the cabinetry behind the pilot seat(s) and/or one of the intermediate seats to make it easier to get up front and provide some additional floor space. The seat rails accomodate a fairly standard strapping system. So, if you have a LOT of baggage, or golf clubs I suppose, they could be put there.
Loading luggage is easy. The large door gives you plenty of room to work and the rear seat next to the door folds down. I set bag on the seat back and then into the luggage compartment or just set them directly into it.
It's a similar location and loading process as in a PC12 (just much smaller - like loading an Cayenne instead of an F350...  ).
I generally get ramp fees waived with fuel. When they're not they seem to run $15-$50. Ramp overnights I would say average $15-$20 and hangars $100 but there is a fair amount of variability as I fly all over the country and often to fairly busy airports along with a lot of podunk locations. How that compares to King Airs I have no idea.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the TBM 850 Posted: 12 Dec 2017, 10:02 |
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Username Protected wrote: Tony, how much room is there in the nose baggage compartment? I can't ever seem to find a good picture of that space. Got one? Yes I do Don. It is just enough to hold the engine, prop and misc covers and a set of portable chocks. I have a small, unpressurized storage compartment in the tail as well that I use for a set of tools, cleaning supplies and a windscreen cover. It would also probably hold a set of golf clubs in a skinny travel bag. I haven't tried that but it is perfect for fly rod tubes...
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Post subject: Re: Flying the TBM 850 Posted: 12 Dec 2017, 10:33 |
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Its bigger on the late model 850 and 900. I will take some pics today. Username Protected wrote: Tony, how much room is there in the nose baggage compartment? I can't ever seem to find a good picture of that space. Got one?
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Post subject: Re: Flying the TBM 850 Posted: 12 Dec 2017, 14:09 |
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Here is the front compartment on the G1000 850 and 900 series. I can fit my covers, supplies, 2 set of chocks, a folding step and I have room for my personal suitcase. Or fit 1 large and 1 small suitcase or 2 golf bags. Username Protected wrote: Tony, how much room is there in the nose baggage compartment? I can't ever seem to find a good picture of that space. Got one?
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Post subject: Re: Flying the TBM 850 Posted: 12 Dec 2017, 23:49 |
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I can get 4-5 suitcase in the bagage compartment. Easy to haul bagage for 4-5 passenger. Easy to load with the large cargo door but a smaller guy might find the bagage compartment higher for their licking. Not sure about the small door but it would be harder to load for sure probably like a Meridian. From what I hear, ramp and parking fees are close to half what they would charge a KA. Username Protected wrote: Tell us about baggage.
How many normal sized suitcases can you fit? How difficult to load with and without large door? How do ramp and hangar fees differ from, say, a King Air?
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Post subject: Re: Flying the TBM 850 Posted: 13 Dec 2017, 00:12 |
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Amazing how much room the legacy avionics took up that is now available.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the TBM 850 Posted: 13 Dec 2017, 10:31 |
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Marc, is your driver in your golf bag there?
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Post subject: Re: Flying the TBM 850 Posted: 13 Dec 2017, 11:43 |
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Yes. Username Protected wrote: Marc, is your driver in your golf bag there?
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Post subject: Re: Flying the TBM 850 Posted: 13 Dec 2017, 19:13 |
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SOCATA introduced a landing gear Long Life Program (LLP) around 2008-2009. The short version, was to removed calendar limits regarding landing gear overhaul and replace it with a cycle limit, 5000 cycles. Now depending upon the age of the gear, a specific inspection needs to be performed to qualify landing gear for LLP. It breaks down as follow: Yearly inspec: visual inspection on wing, 2 man hours 5 year inspec: visual inspection on wing, 8 man hours 10 Year inspec: visual inspection off wing, 27 man hours+ material As far as the gear actuators, they are 2 basic models one with a 7 years, the other with a 10 years overhaul limit. These are identified via part numbers. 10 years actuators came on new aircraft around 2008-2009. All of this is described in maintenance manual chapter 5 Username Protected wrote: how does the 7/10 year gear inspection work? is it an NDI, IRAN, O/H, or exchange?
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Post subject: Re: Flying the TBM 850 Posted: 13 Dec 2017, 20:45 |
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Username Protected wrote: All of this is described in maintenance manual chapter 5
And that is another great thing about Socata. All the maint manuals, IPC, even CMMs are available for free once you register on mysocata.com
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