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 Post subject: Re: Flying the TBM 850
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While people are making comparisons....

I like the TBM9 cabin altitude at FL280, 7,600 I think.
9,600 for the M600.

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 Post subject: Re: Flying the TBM 850
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I’m just curious. Guys who have jumped from the 850 to the 900 series......what are your likes/dislikes? How much “real world numbers” increase in performance have you seen?


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 Post subject: Re: Flying the TBM 850
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I'm surprised at the maintenance numbers quoted here. I manage and fly a 2009 PC12NG and the numbers have been about half what's been stated here for the TBM. Annuals with a "do everything" approach have been around 35k. The only things that have broke have been with the avionics which are covered under HAPP warranty at 18k /yr. Other than that it's just oil, tires and fuel.

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I'm surprised at the maintenance numbers quoted here. I manage and fly a 2009 PC12NG and the numbers have been about half what's been stated here for the TBM. Annuals with a "do everything" approach have been around 35k. The only things that have broke have been with the avionics which are covered under HAPP warranty at 18k /yr. Other than that it's just oil, tires and fuel.


I have high MX costs the last 3 years but all due to calendar and times related . Biggies: Landing Gear, Actuators, Starter-gen, hyd power pack, propeller, HSI, some shop time intensive inspections....which will not be due again for 84-120 more months.

I expect this years MX costs to be in the ~$75/hour or less range flying 180 hours.


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The cockpit of the M600 does seem a little wider.

The Meridian screens are smaller. 10" vs 12" (I think) for the TBM.


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The cockpit of the M600 does seem a little wider.

The Meridian screens are smaller. 10" vs 12" (I think) for the TBM.


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Correct. All the G3000 screens are the same size across aircraft types, to my knowledge. The Meridian/M600 cabin is a couple inches wider than the TBM, but the TBM cabin is a couple inches taller.


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So everyone is on the same page when making comparisons to the M600--
Because the 850 has been around longer, an older one can be acquired for substantially less than an M600. ($1.4-2.6 for TBMs and $2.0-3.0 for M600). There is a crossover point. The older ones are likely going to require more maintenance.
A new 900 series comes with 5 years of maintenance and annual inspections. A new TBM is substantially more than a new M600. The M600 has been around since 2017. It is a completely different airplane, IMO, than the Meridian.


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Therein lies my dilemma. I can probably afford to sell my A36 and move up to to an old TBM for about 1 Mill. but I can't afford the maintenance. I could afford the maintenance on the M600 but can't afford the 2.4 mill price for a used one. If only you could put tip tanks on an M500 life would be sweet ( I would need the extra 150 NM to go nonstop on my flights).


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Therein lies my dilemma. I can probably afford to sell my A36 and move up to to an old TBM for about 1 Mill. but I can't afford the maintenance. I could afford the maintenance on the M600 but can't afford the 2.4 mill price for a used one. If only you could put tip tanks on an M500 life would be sweet ( I would need the extra 150 NM to go nonstop on my flights).


The whole cost of capitalization versus cost of actual ownership thing has really baffled me for a long time. When I moved from my late model Meridian into my Mustang, it was just under 200k, which is just mind boggling when you tangibly compare what you are getting. Cost of ownership.....ya that makes more sense.
To move into the M600 or the 850 at the time, I was looking at another roughly 800k to 1 Mil. I figured that gave me 8 years or so at Fl 41k in the Mustang until it evened out. Wouldn’t have it any other way for my 1000nm commute. No brainer for me.

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so what does a mid-time Mustang go for? what were the production years?

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so what does a mid-time Mustang go for? what were the production years?


2007-2016... you can pickup a nice early one for 1-1.2m

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