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Post subject: Re: Flying the TBM 850  Posted: 18 Jan 2018, 17:27 |
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Username Protected wrote: I forgot to add my question: Would the TBM owners fly in to my runway with loose rocks? Just pave it over, compared to TBM price it will be cheap change and well spent. (I've seen a quote last year to top cover existing 25x3000ft runway and it was in the $20k range)
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Post subject: Re: Flying the TBM 850 Posted: 18 Jan 2018, 19:09 |
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Username Protected wrote: I forgot to add my question: Would the TBM owners fly in to my runway with loose rocks? No way.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the TBM 850 Posted: 18 Jan 2018, 21:52 |
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Not me, I have the C185 for that. Actually I paved my strip for the TBM, 3400' x 50'. Username Protected wrote: I forgot to add my question: Would the TBM owners fly in to my runway with loose rocks? No way.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the TBM 850 Posted: 19 Jan 2018, 02:12 |
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Username Protected wrote: I haul a lot of stuff and people so full fuel useful load (1100lbs) i Paul - No disrespect, but I think you need to check your numbers. Even a G1000 850 won't do that (and it is lighter empty than a C2). If your weight and balance papers say that, I would have it weighed.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the TBM 850 Posted: 19 Jan 2018, 09:56 |
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Username Protected wrote: Actually I paved my strip for the TBM, 3400' x 50'.
Having just poured a 24 X 2600' concrete section of my grass runway, I feel that I may have a good platform from which to admire your accomplishment. 3400' X50' is one heck of a runway, my hat is off to you. I'm sure it would make an interesting thread some day. 
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Post subject: Re: Flying the TBM 850 Posted: 19 Jan 2018, 10:09 |
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Username Protected wrote: Tomasz, Now I like how you spend AMU's..... It's all about perspective - I wouldn't spend $20k in addition to $80k I paid for my Bo, but if I were spending >1mln for a TBM? Especially that what it looks like he has hard runway anyway - so to pave it over there should be no need for ex(t/p)ensive grading.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the TBM 850 Posted: 19 Jan 2018, 10:34 |
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Username Protected wrote: I forgot to add my question: Would the TBM owners fly in to my runway with loose rocks? Just pave it over, compared to TBM price it will be cheap change and well spent. (I've seen a quote last year to top cover existing 25x3000ft runway and it was in the $20k range)
 wow, that sounds crazy cheap. I'd be surprised if a "top cover" job would suffice on a fresh paving job. Even if the base is perfectly packed and graded, I would think triple that cost would be a bargain.
I priced about 62,500 square feet of fresh asphalt last year that required stone for a base, followed by sand, base asphalt, and top coat asphalt and it was over $350,000 from multiple vendors.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the TBM 850 Posted: 19 Jan 2018, 13:58 |
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Username Protected wrote: I haul a lot of stuff and people so full fuel useful load (1100lbs) i Paul - No disrespect, but I think you need to check your numbers. Even a G1000 850 won't do that (and it is lighter empty than a C2). If your weight and balance papers say that, I would have it weighed.
None taken, will verify. P
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Post subject: Re: Flying the TBM 850 Posted: 19 Jan 2018, 23:29 |
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My 700C2 full fuel useful load is almost 1100 lbs... but that doesn’t include the pilot nor the rear seats. Seats are 35 lbs each (center) and 52lbs each (rear). The seats only take about 60 seconds to install or remove, so if you just add the seat weight to the passenger weight, it’s not a bad way to think of useful load.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the TBM 850 Posted: 27 Jan 2018, 11:13 |
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Our TBM 700B is getting the 530’s swapped out for 750’s plus the transponders/ADSB compliance as I’m writing. I also am swapping out the G600 for the new touchscreen model. Anyone considering should take a look now as there is a pretty reasonable price point/trade in, much like when Garmin offered the GMX20 to GMX200 swap.
Only problem is the delivery date keeps backing up (Jan 18, now March). Can you believe it? So...... panel keeps the 600 for now and they’re explaining 3 days down when the NXi delivers as it’s mostly plug and play. Should be airworthy next week without the G600 NXi.
We now will have a fresh engine (that was pricey) updated avionics, fresh tail inspection coming in March plus the landing gear as well. This has/will all cost a pile of money to maintain a 2001 airplane and keep it all up to date. Except, next is paint and interior...... never ends.
The moral of the story to me is no matter what...... you pay. Buy an older airframe (lower capX) and keep paying.... Spend a bunch more up front, (big capX) buy a new one but nominal/warranty maintenance. Either way you pay.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the TBM 850 Posted: 27 Jan 2018, 11:39 |
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Here is what a TBM looks like with everything removed. It’s crazy to me how all those wires end up in the right place.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the TBM 850 Posted: 27 Jan 2018, 12:52 |
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Username Protected wrote:
The moral of the story to me
Flying a TBM with a ultra cool panel is still the best!
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Post subject: Re: Flying the TBM 850 Posted: 27 Jan 2018, 13:20 |
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Username Protected wrote: Our TBM 700B is getting the 530’s swapped out for 750’s plus the transponders/ADSB compliance as I’m writing. I also am swapping out the G600 for the new touchscreen model. Anyone considering should take a look now as there is a pretty reasonable price point/trade in, much like when Garmin offered the GMX20 to GMX200 swap.
Only problem is the delivery date keeps backing up (Jan 18, now March). Can you believe it? So...... panel keeps the 600 for now and they’re explaining 3 days down when the NXi delivers as it’s mostly plug and play. Should be airworthy next week without the G600 NXi.
We now will have a fresh engine (that was pricey) updated avionics, fresh tail inspection coming in March plus the landing gear as well. This has/will all cost a pile of money to maintain a 2001 airplane and keep it all up to date. Except, next is paint and interior...... never ends.
The TBM (any model, really) fits my missions so well but I'm scared and I'm saying I'm scared of the piles of $$$ involved. When I read this above I nearly threw up. Still. I'd love to have one...
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