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Post subject: Re: Flying the TBM 850  Posted: 08 Mar 2020, 17:17 |
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Username Protected wrote: Just back from KPMP Pompano, FL non stop, 1200 nm @FL310 in 4.5 hrs.
Headwinds average 30 nm during the trip And landed with 62 gal or 1 hr of fuel reserve. Marc- how far offshore- and what do you do for a raft? Anytime I go to the Bahamas it's a debate about whether to cut the corner or go direct. One of these days I'm going to go direct from PGV, but it's about 200nm offshore... Sorry I missed you a few weeks ago- we had an amazing time in Mt Tremblant. Cannot believe how courteous and gracious the Canadians are. really great trip!
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Post subject: Re: Flying the TBM 850 Posted: 08 Mar 2020, 21:59 |
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Username Protected wrote: I had a quick turn today at KABQ. They had the fuel truck pumping within 5 minutes of shutdown. It was 60 degrees and when I was ready to start 20 minutes later residual ITT was 244. I motored 30 seconds to 140 degrees and introduced fuel. ITT peaked at 744 before retreating. This was with the IS on. Pretty typical even when hotter OAT. This matches my limited experience motoring on a quick fuel stop restart. I'll be doing it again twice this weekend in NC so happy to refresh my knowledge of the procedure...
I had a quick turn at KABQ today with residual ITT at 250. Motoring for 20ish seconds to 160 resulted in peak ITT at 815 on start. Very easy to manage IMHO.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the TBM 850 Posted: 08 Mar 2020, 22:56 |
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I have a 4-6 person raft, I dont sweat it in the TBM. I think the most I was was just over 100 nm. Username Protected wrote: Just back from KPMP Pompano, FL non stop, 1200 nm @FL310 in 4.5 hrs.
Headwinds average 30 nm during the trip And landed with 62 gal or 1 hr of fuel reserve. Marc- how far offshore- and what do you do for a raft? Anytime I go to the Bahamas it's a debate about whether to cut the corner or go direct. One of these days I'm going to go direct from PGV, but it's about 200nm offshore... Sorry I missed you a few weeks ago- we had an amazing time in Mt Tremblant. Cannot believe how courteous and gracious the Canadians are. really great trip!
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Post subject: Re: Flying the TBM 850 Posted: 08 Mar 2020, 23:12 |
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Username Protected wrote: how far offshore- and what do you do for a raft? Anytime I go to the Bahamas it's a debate about whether to cut the corner or go direct. One of these days I'm going to go direct from PGV, but it's about 200nm offshore... I'm having the same debate looking at a flight to Governors Harbour from Ohio, which is somewhat similar to your flight path from Greenville, NC. Then I see G-IV's doing this and this and it brings me back to reality a little bit.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the TBM 850 Posted: 09 Mar 2020, 09:20 |
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Username Protected wrote: Then I see G-IV's doing this and this and it brings me back to reality a little bit. Dumb question of the day: why would a G-IV do this? Sightseeing? Nervous passengers? No life raft?
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Post subject: Re: Flying the TBM 850 Posted: 09 Mar 2020, 10:48 |
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Username Protected wrote: how far offshore- and what do you do for a raft? Anytime I go to the Bahamas it's a debate about whether to cut the corner or go direct. One of these days I'm going to go direct from PGV, but it's about 200nm offshore... I'm having the same debate looking at a flight to Governors Harbour from Ohio, which is somewhat similar to your flight path from Greenville, NC. Then I see G-IV's doing this and this and it brings me back to reality a little bit.
I don't understand that at all.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the TBM 850 Posted: 09 Mar 2020, 13:00 |
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Username Protected wrote: how far offshore- and what do you do for a raft? Anytime I go to the Bahamas it's a debate about whether to cut the corner or go direct. One of these days I'm going to go direct from PGV, but it's about 200nm offshore... I'm having the same debate looking at a flight to Governors Harbour from Ohio, which is somewhat similar to your flight path from Greenville, NC. Then I see G-IV's doing this and this and it brings me back to reality a little bit.
They also do this:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N400HG
and this:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N42 ... /KTEB/TIST
So my best guess your example is extreme outlier. There must be other reason for it, not related to the airframe capabilities.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the TBM 850 Posted: 09 Mar 2020, 19:16 |
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Username Protected wrote: how far offshore- and what do you do for a raft? Anytime I go to the Bahamas it's a debate about whether to cut the corner or go direct. One of these days I'm going to go direct from PGV, but it's about 200nm offshore... I'm having the same debate looking at a flight to Governors Harbour from Ohio, which is somewhat similar to your flight path from Greenville, NC. Then I see G-IV's doing this and this and it brings me back to reality a little bit.
Ops specs maybe? That's ETOPS zero right there.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the TBM 850 Posted: 10 Mar 2020, 11:17 |
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Is there a consideration for the ADIZ if both departure and destination are US?
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Post subject: Re: Flying the TBM 850 Posted: 10 Mar 2020, 12:25 |
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Username Protected wrote: Is there a consideration for the ADIZ if both departure and destination are US? I don't believe so, unless laws have changed. I have never been asked about it; have been outside the ADIZ with a US departure/destination.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the TBM 850 Posted: 10 Mar 2020, 15:36 |
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Username Protected wrote: Your EAPIS will ask where you will cross ADIZ. This topic is pretting thoroughly covered in: viewtopic.php?f=35&t=92234&view=unread#unreadAre you describing an OCONUS entry (ie PR to CONUS), or a CONUS to CONUS (ie I leave NC and fly direct to FL, 100nm offshore)? second option would never even require an eAPIS. would the first?
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Post subject: Re: Flying the TBM 850 Posted: 10 Mar 2020, 19:50 |
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Username Protected wrote: Your EAPIS will ask where you will cross ADIZ. This topic is pretting thoroughly covered in: viewtopic.php?f=35&t=92234&view=unread#unreadAre you describing an OCONUS entry (ie PR to CONUS), or a CONUS to CONUS (ie I leave NC and fly direct to FL, 100nm offshore)? second option would never even require an eAPIS. would the first?
Nope. There really is not a way to to file eapis from US to US anyway. I investigated when we were flying relief flights to PR after Maria.
I was refering to flying from US to Bahamas they want your crossing point on the eapis coming and going.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the TBM 850 Posted: 11 Mar 2020, 14:42 |
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Attachment: 16891F88-6046-4566-988B-A82C1C7F20AB.jpeg The TBM is an amazing aircraft. San Diego to our East Tennessee home field 1,883nm 4:50 enroute, 60kt+ tailwind, had to reduce power about 10% to maintain one hour fuel reserve.
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