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 Post subject: Re: Flying the TBM 850
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I think the problem with avionics shops is that the major installs take a long time and are very hard work. ... Tough job, but from what I hear, delays, squawks and over-budget are the norm, not the exception.

In my anecdotal observation, the people who usually have the worst stories to tell about avionics installs are the same people who shopped around for the absolute lowest price and then badgered even a little more out of that turnip before complaining they didn’t get a perfect installation and fast turnaround.

Saving that last penny doesn’t always result in actually saving... there are good shops around.

In my own experience, I didn’t look for the cheapest option, but having the word “affordable” in the shop’s name was a major mistake.
Next time I’m looking for an unappealing to cheapskates option.

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I have been looking at TBM’s and the average age of the owners. All the owners I see or know are past 55. Does this mean in 5 to 10 years 1/3 to 1/2 of owners will not have a medical or be down sizing? Is there a significant price drop coming in the near future?

I am evaluating this as I shop.

Gerald,

Hello Gerald,

I think there will be a new batch of people aging into that TBM demographic. I am shopping too but at 69 and blessed with good health and resources I’m not waiting for the next anything anymore, time is the commodity I most value these days.

Are you adding to your collection or selling the 421 and Baron? Happy shopping.

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You have a great point. I would guess yes!

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 Post subject: Re: Flying the TBM 850
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I have been looking at TBM’s and the average age of the owners. All the owners I see or know are past 55. Does this mean in 5 to 10 years 1/3 to 1/2 of owners will not have a medical or be down sizing? Is there a significant price drop coming in the near future?

I am evaluating this as I shop.

Gerald,

Hello Gerald,

I think there will be a new batch of people aging into that TBM demographic. I am shopping too but at 69 and blessed with good health and resources I’m not waiting for the next anything anymore, time is the commodity I most value these days.

Are you adding to your collection or selling the 421 and Baron? Happy shopping.

Richard


A friend is interested in the 1980 421C with 3400 TT, zero since factory NEW engines. NKDH, G600, dual 750’s,TCAS, L3 Storm scope, XM, GMX70 Radar ,ADSB compliant , USB port, Garmin 430W, (yes 3 navcoms) , spoilers, hub caps, VG’s, and whole bunch of other good stuff. Soon a new AP either the 3100 or the GFC600 which ever is certified first.
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 Post subject: Re: Flying the TBM 850
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Not really as the 45 year olds will be 55 in 10 years.
I see more and more younger guys flying TBMs. I was 45 when I bought my first TBM.
Go for it Gerald, you wont miss the twins.





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I have been looking at TBM’s and the average age of the owners. All the owners I see or know are past 55. Does this mean in 5 to 10 years 1/3 to 1/2 of owners will not have a medical or be down sizing? Is there a significant price drop coming in the near future?

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Winter is back with its share of ice, headwinds and tailwinds.

Coming back from Toronto this week.


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Winter is back with its share of ice, headwinds and tailwinds.

Coming back from Toronto this week.


Flilght ID is HH125?

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Winter is back with its share of ice, headwinds and tailwinds.

Coming back from Toronto this week.


Flilght ID is HH125?

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Very nice, Marc. Do I spy an NXi upgrade? Looks great.


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Very nice, Marc. Do I spy an NXi upgrade? Looks great.

Was about to ask the same thing.

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If someone buys a plane with a timed-out engine, how does the OH work on the PT6?

does the price depend on what's useable as a core? are cores usually good, or usually not?
how much variation in price between OH shops?

with pistons, there are good/bad/ugly shops, and the prices don't necessarily correlate (ie, Powermaster makes a phenomenal engine, at what I consider middle-of-the-market price).

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It was done in June. Great update.





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Very nice, Marc. Do I spy an NXi upgrade? Looks great.

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If someone buys a plane with a timed-out engine, how does the OH work on the PT6?

does the price depend on what's useable as a core? are cores usually good, or usually not?
how much variation in price between OH shops?

with pistons, there are good/bad/ugly shops, and the prices don't necessarily correlate (ie, Powermaster makes a phenomenal engine, at what I consider middle-of-the-market price).


Gary,

Great questions. While I have extremely detailed info in this area for the -66D engine on my 850. I have no desire to relive or recite the experience. It was not fun. Sorry... The pain is too recent.

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To those whom fly TBM’s without glass panels,

I occasionally watch Stevo1Kinevo on YouTube. He flies a TBM 850. I noticed the airspeed indicator is not conventional to what we typically see. The “zero” indication is straight down and it winds up like a car speedometer.

1) Is this normal from the factory? Do some pilots change this to the conventional airspeed indicator?

2) Does it take some getting used to? Cause any second glances when jumping between planes?


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I had to go back and look at old photos. I see what you mean as the needle starts in the bottom vs the top on most singles. Not an issue as I never notice this until you brought it up.




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To those whom fly TBM’s without glass panels,

I occasionally watch Stevo1Kinevo on YouTube. He flies a TBM 850. I noticed the airspeed indicator is not conventional to what we typically see. The “zero” indication is straight down and it winds up like a car speedometer.

1) Is this normal from the factory? Do some pilots change this to the conventional airspeed indicator?

2) Does it take some getting used to? Cause any second glances when jumping between planes?


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