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Yes, an awesome Panther conversion. So that increased my insurance premium. A factory C would be less insurance cost, but from what I have learned about the Navajo, I wouldn't buy the C without the Panther conversion.


Gary, can you expand on why you wouldn’t get a stock C?

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I haven't flown it yet but it seems that there is agreement that the panther conversion on the short body, no wing locker Navajo is a huge upgrade in performance of the airplane. Just search here and on google.

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Yes, an awesome Panther conversion. So that increased my insurance premium. A factory C would be less insurance cost, but from what I have learned about the Navajo, I wouldn't buy the C without the Panther conversion.


Gary, can you expand on why you wouldn’t get a stock C?


Any of the Navajo’s are GOOD planes. The Panther conversion makes them a GREAT plane. The “C” is the lightest of the three versions. Giving it 700HP and 4 blade props makes it an unbelievable performer. Much like the colemill conversion on a “B” model 55 Baron.

It’s an amazing short field airplane. 2,000’ unimproved strips is no problem, even at gross. Not to mention a cabin class twin too. It’s not much faster then my Baron was and burns 10 GPH more. However, for me, having a cabin class twin that’s turbo charged, able to carry 6-7 with luggage and full fuel With STOL capabilities is worth the extra costs.

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When I bought my first twin I had 5 hrs of multi time. Insurance first year was 8k, second year was 3.5 and then it settled between 2.5-3k. Consider it the first year twin tax.

How many hours did you fly it the first year? How many of those were with a right-seater?


15 hrs with a right seater, which I did in the ferry flight from the east coast plus a day flying around. I logged about 100hrs first year.
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How many hours did you fly it the first year? How many of those were with a right-seater?


15 hrs with a right seater, which I did in the ferry flight from the east coast plus a day flying around. I logged about 100hrs first year.

That's reasonable.
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Anyone know any forums that has lots of Navajo owners? I'm trying to get the word out about the STec 3100 autopilot. If they get more interest, they will get going on the PA-31 STC.

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And the wife can’t do this in a Baron:




Looks like room for a couch in there.


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Anyone know any forums that has lots of Navajo owners? I'm trying to get the word out about the STec 3100 autopilot. If they get more interest, they will get going on the PA-31 STC.


Embedded within the Piper owners forum, is a Twin Piper group. They may already know about it. When I get a spare half-hour, I'll get on there and post it. I am definitely interested. :rock: The old units are really aging. I might be able to furnish an airframe in the near future for the testing. ~ ME


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Does anyone have a pdf of a -310C POH I can get?

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I've got one. PM me your email.

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TwinBo! :thumbup:


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I haven't flown it yet but it seems that there is agreement that the panther conversion on the short body, no wing locker Navajo is a huge upgrade in performance of the airplane. Just search here and on google.


We may have a first hand comparison. Got the quote today from Mike Jones aircraft to convert the -325. Seems very price comparative to doing factory overhauls, especially considering you get a roughly $100k bump in resale with the conversion. If we do it, it will be later this year.

For data point sake, the -325 does have wing lockers and we have the BLR GW increase. So, we won't get a GW increase on top of what we have now (6840), but 4 blades, winglets and 50 more HP...


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Friend of mine is looking for a fuel pressure gauge for his PA-31-325 which apparently is a different gauge from the -310 and -350.

P/n is 548-014 and he's striking out everywhere. Suggestions?

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Why not get a fuel pressure gauge from a -310 or -350 and sent it out to be remarked?


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Got an answer (finally) from Aviall/Piper...133 days from time of order.

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Why not get a fuel pressure gauge from a -310 or -350 and sent it out to be remarked?

He looked at that option but ended up with a TSO'd/STC'd digital replacement from Aerospace Logic.


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