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Post subject: Re: Citation 501sp Posted: 16 Oct 2018, 18:10 |
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Username Protected wrote: Will be in SDL in the Excel next Sun-Mon. I could use some restaurant suggestions, and of course I'm always up to meet BTrs for a drink. ( can I say that?)
Robert Tanner Ping me...if I’m in town lets connect.
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Post subject: Re: Citation 501sp Posted: 16 Oct 2018, 18:11 |
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Username Protected wrote: Flew with Tracy? Flew with him today. We are doing a trip Thursday up to Washington. Yeah...great guy!
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Post subject: Re: Citation 501sp Posted: 17 Oct 2018, 16:58 |
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Joined: 03/09/11 Posts: 1727 Post Likes: +787 Company: Wings Insurance Location: Eden Prairie, MN / Scottsdale, AZ
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Username Protected wrote: Will be in SDL in the Excel next Sun-Mon. I could use some restaurant suggestions, and of course I'm always up to meet BTrs for a drink. ( can I say that?)
Robert Tanner Mastros Ocean Club - Kierland
_________________ Tom Hauge Wings Insurance National Sales Director E-mail: thauge@wingsinsurance.com
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Post subject: Re: Citation 501sp Posted: 17 Oct 2018, 17:15 |
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Joined: 05/29/13 Posts: 13588 Post Likes: +10972 Company: Easy Ice, LLC Location: Marquette, Michigan; Scottsdale, AZ, Telluride
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Username Protected wrote: Will be in SDL in the Excel next Sun-Mon. I could use some restaurant suggestions, and of course I'm always up to meet BTrs for a drink. ( can I say that?)
Robert Tanner Mastros Ocean Club - Kierland
Sanctuary in Paradise Valley.
_________________ Mark Hangen Deputy Minister of Ice (aka FlyingIceperson) Power of the Turbine "Jet Elite"
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Post subject: Re: Citation 501sp Posted: 17 Oct 2018, 22:19 |
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Joined: 07/29/08 Posts: 194 Post Likes: +17 Location: Redmond, WA
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So Tom, any insights into how one can convince an insurance company that you are qualified to move between the models covered by CE-500 even though you don't have the minimum required for a particular model? My immediate issue is that there is a pilot with tons of 551 experience but none on 501.. not only they require minimum hours on every model that you want to fly but also they want you to have yearly/recent currency. I had this same issue with a C414 and C421, and more ridiculously a F33A and a A36, etc. BTW - I buy insurance from you
_________________ Sameer KBFI Citation 501
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Post subject: Re: Citation 501sp Posted: 17 Oct 2018, 22:45 |
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Username Protected wrote: BTW - I buy insurance from you Doh!
_________________ Mark Hangen Deputy Minister of Ice (aka FlyingIceperson) Power of the Turbine "Jet Elite"
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Post subject: Re: Citation 501sp Posted: 18 Oct 2018, 00:06 |
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Username Protected wrote: ... Bought 25% share...Not much to say at this point. That's exactly 25% more Learjet than I own. Congrats.
So John, you own 18.75% of a Learjet? Congrats to you!
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Post subject: Re: Citation 501sp Posted: 18 Oct 2018, 09:11 |
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Username Protected wrote: not only they require minimum hours on every model that you want to fly but also they want you to have yearly/recent currency. You can do differences training during your 61.58 for the different models within the type that the insurance company should recognize. It will add to your training time. Working out the training program that satisfies the FAA and the insurance underwriter is the key. It is best discussed offline with your broker.
_________________ Allen
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Post subject: Re: Citation 501sp Posted: 18 Oct 2018, 11:55 |
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Joined: 03/09/11 Posts: 1727 Post Likes: +787 Company: Wings Insurance Location: Eden Prairie, MN / Scottsdale, AZ
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Username Protected wrote: So Tom, any insights into how one can convince an insurance company that you are qualified to move between the models covered by CE-500 even though you don't have the minimum required for a particular model? My immediate issue is that there is a pilot with tons of 551 experience but none on 501.. not only they require minimum hours on every model that you want to fly but also they want you to have yearly/recent currency. I had this same issue with a C414 and C421, and more ridiculously a F33A and a A36, etc. BTW - I buy insurance from you Hi Sameer- I'll have Ryan in my office (who is your broker at my firm) reach out to you directly to cover your questions. Thank you sir
_________________ Tom Hauge Wings Insurance National Sales Director E-mail: thauge@wingsinsurance.com
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Post subject: Re: Citation 501sp Posted: 18 Oct 2018, 12:20 |
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Username Protected wrote: Not sure i am going to stay in the Lear. Clearly a two pilot plane. Lots going on. Crappy AP. Long runway required. Not very fuel efficient. I have an opportunity to sell my share. I knew I could sell it so I just threw in for the option value. We’ll see. Which Lear? That seems so opposite of my experience with the 31Aer. Heading to recurrent in November on the Lear which is always fun since it is fighter performance empty.. Also... places in Scottsdale for drinks: My #1 Favorite is AZ88 in Old Town. T
_________________ Tom Johnson-Az/Wy AssuredPartners Aerospace Insurance Tj.Johnson@AssuredPartners.com C: 602-628-2701
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Post subject: Re: Citation 501sp Posted: 18 Oct 2018, 12:30 |
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Username Protected wrote: Not sure i am going to stay in the Lear. Clearly a two pilot plane. Lots going on. Crappy AP. Long runway required. Not very fuel efficient. I have an opportunity to sell my share. I knew I could sell it so I just threw in for the option value. We’ll see. Which Lear? That seems so opposite of my experience with the 31Aer. Heading to recurrent in November on the Lear which is always fun since it is fighter performance empty.. Also... places in Scottsdale for drinks: My #1 Favorite is AZ88 in Old Town. T
35A. Serial number 419
_________________ Mark Hangen Deputy Minister of Ice (aka FlyingIceperson) Power of the Turbine "Jet Elite"
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Post subject: Re: Citation 501sp Posted: 18 Oct 2018, 12:49 |
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Joined: 03/23/08 Posts: 6967 Post Likes: +3625 Company: AssuredPartners Aerospace Phx. Location: KDVT, 46U
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Username Protected wrote: Which Lear? That seems so opposite of my experience with the 31Aer. Heading to recurrent in November on the Lear which is always fun since it is fighter performance empty..
Also... places in Scottsdale for drinks: My #1 Favorite is AZ88 in Old Town. T 35A. Serial number 419 Funny since the 31 there is literally ZERO going on... Its hard for 2 pilots to keep occupied. Very easy plane to fly solo, just sayin. The dual digital autopilot installation is impeccable.
All that said... we continue to eyeball the early SP Citations just as a cheap runabout to replace the Mu2. Finding a short wing variant to fit in our hangar has been an issue though. Hangar space (with fuel farm) in my area is an issue... T
_________________ Tom Johnson-Az/Wy AssuredPartners Aerospace Insurance Tj.Johnson@AssuredPartners.com C: 602-628-2701
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