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Post subject: Re: Citation 501sp Posted: 08 Sep 2018, 17:46 |
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Joined: 05/05/09 Posts: 4958 Post Likes: +4796
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAb8BhxI3kQSomeone described the landing was like a well struck 2 iron. I used no reverse thrust (buckets out though) and super light braking. I want everyone to see how much you float holding exactly VREF. No problem with 7,000 feet but its an issue to think about if you have to land really short. I have the "rental" jet all dialed in. It's awesome and I really love the Garmins.
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Post subject: Re: Citation 501sp Posted: 08 Sep 2018, 17:47 |
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Joined: 11/16/14 Posts: 8677 Post Likes: +10561 Company: Forever a Student Pilot Location: Colfax Washington
Aircraft: 1947 Bonanza 35
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Username Protected wrote: Little Charles took his first plane ride at 1 week old. He is almost a month old now! Future pilot for sure You Have a Lovely Family Michael!
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Post subject: Re: Citation 501sp Posted: 08 Sep 2018, 17:52 |
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Joined: 12/03/14 Posts: 19252 Post Likes: +23622 Company: Ciholas, Inc Location: KEHR
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Username Protected wrote: The good thing about these threads is it makes me almost think I could afford a 501 or a MU2. Then, realty sets in. I’d have to find one with 10 years of engine life and then sell it. Not including something catastrophic happening. You described my situation perfectly. Except I have 30 years of engine life left even today. Bought my MU2 in 2008 with 500 hours on the engines, now have 1700 hours on them, and that's only 1/3rd towards TBO. Not had to do one thing of note to them. I've only done one oil change and the next one isn't due for ~500 hours. The biggest maintenance I do on the engine is clean nozzles every 2-3 years, otherwise they simply just work. The main thing that keeps piston pilots from going turbine is that they combine piston failure rate expectations with turbine repair costs. It just doesn't work like that. Maybe an Aerostar can deliver the 400,000 miles of use I've had from my MU2 for cheaper, but it won't be by much, and it certainly won't deliver those miles as fast or as reliably. Turbine is just a whole different level. 300 knots will change your life. Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: Citation 501sp Posted: 25 Sep 2018, 22:59 |
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Joined: 02/03/13 Posts: 492 Post Likes: +108 Location: Caldwell Tx
Aircraft: B55 Pres !!, 501 SP
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Low Maintenance Program is what is costing me squawks that need fixed. Phase 1-4 $10K for Inspection, Balance due to lack of attention and flying in past years. Phase 5 next week. forgot cost at this time but very small. New interior while phase insp My two cents, I can not go back to day one and justify my flying expense, BUT I can justify the pleasure and advantages flying has brought to me. It's call DISPOSABLE INCOME!!!!! LOL Use it as you see fit!!! FLYING!!!!! B55 Baron Pres II Cheyenne I Citation I SP All for personal use, MINE! Wife said you need to sell two of those planes, you don't need three. I replied: I will sell some planes when you sell some of those shoes and clothes in that 360 sq ft closet you don't wear, at least I fly all three! I really enjoy the 501 SP !
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Post subject: Re: Citation 501sp Posted: 02 Oct 2018, 16:50 |
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Joined: 07/10/10 Posts: 940 Post Likes: +622 Location: New Braunfels, TX
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Quote: 300 knots will change your life.
Mike C. Dangit - I hate it when you say that.
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Post subject: Re: Citation 501sp Posted: 03 Oct 2018, 08:57 |
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Joined: 03/01/14 Posts: 2152 Post Likes: +1641 Location: 0TX0 Granbury TX
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Coming out of altitude to 10,000 and slowing to 250 seems like you’re just crawling.
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Post subject: Re: Citation 501sp Posted: 03 Oct 2018, 10:41 |
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Joined: 01/28/13 Posts: 6048 Post Likes: +4018 Location: Indiana
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Jim, You're exaggerating above (gallons/miles) and you realize it so while I did all the math to compare the Baron to an MU2 and a 501 I gave up deleted it and decided not to digress... When we are driving pistons the speed and other benefits of that class aircraft are just infuriating. The only positives I can come up with are the lower fuel burn, sometime better scenery and more loggable hours. Not comparing my scenery with MH's though.....
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Post subject: Re: Citation 501sp Posted: 03 Oct 2018, 11:40 |
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Username Protected wrote: Coming out of altitude to 10,000 and slowing to 250 seems like you’re just crawling. In a 501? Redline is 262 in the 550. You’ve gotta be close to clouds or the ground in a 550 to feel fast :)
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Post subject: Re: Citation 501sp Posted: 03 Oct 2018, 11:41 |
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Joined: 11/23/12 Posts: 2373 Post Likes: +2875 Company: CSRA Document Solutions Location: Aiken, SC KAIK
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Username Protected wrote: As most of you know, I absolutely love my V tail. Flying home from Fort Collins, CO to Rochester, MN, all 3hr and 30 minutes of it, I have to admit I was doing some napkin math about “now what if” it was 300 knots instead of my 185 at that time.... Nancy and Errol asleep so what else is a man to do..... I know of a way you can go faster, burn jet-a, pressurized comfort, and it’s a v-tail. PM me for details... Peace, Don
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Post subject: Re: Citation 501sp Posted: 03 Oct 2018, 13:43 |
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Joined: 05/05/09 Posts: 4958 Post Likes: +4796
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Username Protected wrote: Coming out of altitude to 10,000 and slowing to 250 seems like you’re just crawling. In a 501? Redline is 262 in the 550. You’ve gotta be close to clouds or the ground in a 550 to feel fast
Redline is 277 above 14,000 and 262 below 14,000. Shockingly, the airspeed indicator is smart enough to move the redline.
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Post subject: Re: Citation 501sp Posted: 03 Oct 2018, 14:46 |
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Joined: 01/31/10 Posts: 13101 Post Likes: +6970
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Username Protected wrote: Redline is 277 above 14,000 and 262 below 14,000. Shockingly, the airspeed indicator is smart enough to move the redline.
You are saying redline in the 501sp increases with altitude? Does that have to do with weight/fuel burn?
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