BeechTalk - BT

Username Protected · **Posted:** 14 Nov 2017, 23:53

Username Protected wrote:

I used to ride with a friend flying checks at night in an F model most of the time but every now and then we got a Marquis for the run. He had to fly no matter what the weather.

You are a bigger risk taker than me.

In a particularly brutal period, 10 of the 11 fatal accidents were part 135 operations like the check haulers, all of them occurred in the dark of night or in the wee hours of the morning after long hours of duty.

The MU2 was condemned to this risky mission by being rugged, highly capable, and low cost. Tired, under paid pilots flying at night in all weather on monotonous runs just isn't a good combination.

Mike C.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 15 Nov 2017, 00:03

Fly in an MU2? I'm not telling! Someone needs to invite me to find out. I'm tired of reading Beechtalk about airplanes of which I have no experience.

Ashley

Username Protected · **Posted:** 15 Nov 2017, 00:35

Username Protected wrote:

Anyone have a link to video of these icing tests?

They keep them locked up tight. You view them once per year for about $7k the first year and $3k every year after that.....

Username Protected · **Posted:** 15 Nov 2017, 00:53

Username Protected wrote:

You view them once per year for about $7k the first year and $3k every year after that.....

They give the video to instructors, so you usually see it during your recurrent, which are the numbers above.

They don't charge a fee to see it.

The video is about 10 minutes of truly useful information crammed into about 90 minutes. They say they are coming out with a shorter, better version at some point.

Mike C.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 15 Nov 2017, 00:58

Username Protected wrote:

You view them once per year for about $7k the first year and $3k every year after that.....

They give the video to instructors, so you usually see it during your recurrent, which are the numbers above.

They don't charge a fee to see it.

The video is about 10 minutes of truly useful information crammed into about 90 minutes. They say they are coming out with a shorter, better version at some point.

Mike C.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 15 Nov 2017, 03:01

How many of the people who would not fly in an MU2 would turn around and jump in a Lancair IV, for example? Or any type of experimental?

Many people don't really have a good grasp on relative levels of risk.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 15 Nov 2017, 05:58

I'll jump in a Mu-2 with Mike C or another SFAR current pilot no problem.

It shares a few quirks with the E-2 I used to fly so I'm fairly understanding of why the SFAR exists and what it's done for safety.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 15 Nov 2017, 08:21

Username Protected wrote:

Many posts reflect many opinions about MU2s. I am very curious to know from the highly esteemed Beechtalk crowd how many pilots would even go flying in one if given the opportunity? Let's assume fully qualified and experienced pilot and well maintained aircraft with favorable conditions. How many of you would pass just because you have concerns that the plane is inherently unsafe?

Not only would I love to go for a Ride, but I'd buy an Airline Ticket, to go just about anywhere to meet someone who would Take Me

Always loved the Look of MU2's :drool:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 15 Nov 2017, 12:17

Username Protected wrote:

Many people don't really have a good grasp on relative levels of risk.

That sentence could be usefully applied to many BT threads -and beyond.

Ashley

Username Protected · **Posted:** 15 Nov 2017, 12:51

Username Protected wrote:

Fairly amazed that at this point in the survey a solid 20% of respondents wouldn’t even get in the plane that I fly my family around in. :eek:

They're making their decision based on the pilot, not the airplane

most passengers don't have a clue what the differences are

Username Protected · **Posted:** 15 Nov 2017, 12:51

It's been 20 years since but I'd fly in one again right now.
Lee

Username Protected · **Posted:** 15 Nov 2017, 13:08

Many years ago in 1984 I sat next to the head of marketing and sales for Mitsubishi on a flight from SF to Miami. I asked him if it was safe to ride in a MU2.

He said “you only need to ask the pilot two questions “ first,has the pilot been to an approved school and second has it been in the last six months.

He said if the answer is yes to both it’s safe to ride in an MU2.