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Post subject: Re: Best t-prop or jet for $1.3m? Posted: 20 Nov 2017, 20:35 |
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Username Protected wrote: Does the Kodiak count? THat's a pretty impressive hauler and a very new one can be had for that price. My dream airplane!! My wife thinks I'm nuts. JetGirl.
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Post subject: Re: Best t-prop or jet for $1.3m? Posted: 21 Nov 2017, 20:35 |
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Username Protected wrote: A little surprised that no one seems to notice the Citation CJ1... it's slim pickings at $1.3m but they are there. It's a great little airplane with very low DOC's and easy to own / fly. It's not Garmin, but Proline 21 is an awesome system in it's own right. We've bought two of them this year. In both cases the buyers started out thinking King Air C90's Chip if you may indulge us, what are the hourly operating costs (penman style) range speed
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Post subject: Re: Best t-prop or jet for $1.3m? Posted: 22 Nov 2017, 12:37 |
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Username Protected wrote: this may have been mentioned before- but if I fly a jet I'll almost certainly have a mandatory annual sim requirement, right? much less likely with a SETP. what's that week of time worth?-- for me that week is very costly and hard to schedule. PC12 has annual sim requirement. Last year I flew to Simcom with a CJ3 pilot and had the same requirement I had. We were both 3 days/2 nights.
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Post subject: Re: Best t-prop or jet for $1.3m? Posted: 22 Nov 2017, 12:37 |
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Username Protected wrote: this may have been mentioned before- but if I fly a jet I'll almost certainly have a mandatory annual sim requirement, right? much less likely with a SETP. what's that week of time worth?-- for me that week is very costly and hard to schedule. PC12 has annual sim requirement. Last year I flew to Simcom with a CJ3 pilot and had the same requirement I had. We were both 3 days/2 nights.
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Post subject: Re: Best t-prop or jet for $1.3m? Posted: 22 Nov 2017, 12:46 |
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Username Protected wrote: but if I fly a jet I'll almost certainly have a mandatory annual sim requirement, right? Not so. The FAA only requires that you do a PIC check (FAR 61.58), which is as simple as an hour or two flight with a DPE or PPE. The AFM may additionally require that you do annual recurrent training. And your insurer will very likely require recurrent training, but it won't necessarily be in a simulator (especially if you tell them you want recurrent training flexibility when you first shop for the policy). My wife coordinates all the training for Norton Aviation, and that company does lots and lots of annual recurrent training in aircraft for Phenom 100, Phenom 300, and Eclipse pilots. Ken
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Post subject: Re: Best t-prop or jet for $1.3m? Posted: 22 Nov 2017, 12:50 |
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Username Protected wrote: this may have been mentioned before- but if I fly a jet I'll almost certainly have a mandatory annual sim requirement, right? much less likely with a SETP. what's that week of time worth?-- for me that week is very costly and hard to schedule.
if I compare block times at 150 hours per year, I'm still way behind in the jet since I have to spend 2-3 days in the sim. Simcom on the PC12 can be done in two days. Frankly, its a good time to brush up on the systems, etc. If sim training isn't your thing, you can also do in-airplane recurrent at your home airport.
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Post subject: Re: Best t-prop or jet for $1.3m? Posted: 22 Nov 2017, 13:00 |
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Username Protected wrote: Simcom on the PC12 can be done in two days. Frankly, its a good time to brush up on the systems, etc. If sim training isn't your thing, you can also do in-airplane recurrent at your home airport. Yes, I have done it in 2 days but that has more to do with scheduling than competence. If I can book a 2 day-er I do it. You're just doing the 3 day class in 2 days.
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Post subject: Re: Best t-prop or jet for $1.3m? Posted: 22 Nov 2017, 13:07 |
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Username Protected wrote: if I compare block times at 150 hours per year, I'm still way behind in the jet since I have to spend 2-3 days in the sim. No, it isn't right to resolve things down to the hour. A good plane will allow you to do some business and then come home. Rather than travelling the next day on an airliner. That is a one day saving right there. (Not a few hours to be added up into days. And at night you sleep anyway so a work day is not 24 hours.) A few of those trips where the corporate barge can save a whole travel day on an airliner will easily outweigh the recurrent training penalty.
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Post subject: Re: Best t-prop or jet for $1.3m? Posted: 22 Nov 2017, 13:14 |
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Username Protected wrote: Simcom on the PC12 can be done in two days. Frankly, its a good time to brush up on the systems, etc. If sim training isn't your thing, you can also do in-airplane recurrent at your home airport. Yes, I have done it in 2 days but that has more to do with scheduling than competence. If I can book a 2 day-er I do it. You're just doing the 3 day class in 2 days.
That's what I figured. I'll be there Monday for the two day class.
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Post subject: Re: Best t-prop or jet for $1.3m? Posted: 22 Nov 2017, 13:56 |
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Username Protected wrote: That's what I figured. I'll be there Monday for the two day class. I'm going in Jan. glad they have a 2 day option now. I'd rather just go and get it done. Seems like there was a fair bit of wasted time before.
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