BeechTalk - BT

Username Protected · **Posted:** 22 May 2018, 18:58

Username Protected wrote:

Any fair comparison would have to be NA to NA and turbo to turbo. Then the pilots would have to switch airplanes. I love sibling rivalry and two doors.

Mark,

You have half of the ingredients for a turbo to turbo comparison, a T210. Maybe you could find a local turbo Bonanza owner to do the run off with you, although it looks like from the AOPA contest the T210 is hands down the faster plane.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 22 May 2018, 18:59

Username Protected wrote:

Thanks! For my bird 36"/2700 is take-off power limited to 5 minutes. My fuel flow is above 36gph (by the EDM 800) and then I drop to 31"/2500 full rich for the rest of the climb. #4 is my pesky cylinder with the highest EGT and in climb the highest CHT. The 500-600 fpm climb yields 120 kts which keeps that cylinder in check for now.

You might try continuing the climb at 2700 rpm. I think that will make it run a little cooler. In cruise, my 210 runs cooler with more rpm.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 22 May 2018, 19:02

I’m a bit slowed down at this point, but I’ll be ready soon.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 22 May 2018, 21:30

Lord I do love those dislikes! :thumbup:

Jg

Username Protected · **Posted:** 22 May 2018, 21:44

Username Protected wrote:

Lord I do love those dislikes! :thumbup:

Jg

What Dislike? :shrug:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 23 May 2018, 10:12

JG,

If we do not split hairs, then how else can we get to over 300 pages like the Cirrus SJ-50 thread?

I think a three way should be in the mix. What is the closest Piper competitor? The Comanche?

Tim

Username Protected · **Posted:** 23 May 2018, 10:29

Username Protected wrote:

JG,

If we do not split hairs, then how else can we get to over 300 pages like the Cirrus SJ-50 thread?

I think a three way should be in the mix. What is the closest Piper competitor? The Comanche?

Tim

yes, and if you follow the AOPA template for doing comparisons, the comanche selected should be either a 180 or a 400

Username Protected · **Posted:** 23 May 2018, 10:42

Username Protected wrote:

JG,

If we do not split hairs, then how else can we get to over 300 pages like the Cirrus SJ-50 thread?

I think a three way should be in the mix. What is the closest Piper competitor? The Comanche?

Tim

Four way-
Piper - Saratoga and Aerostar
Mitsubishi- MU2 (despite the dis advantage of two engines)

Username Protected · **Posted:** 23 May 2018, 12:19

Username Protected wrote:

yes, and if you follow the AOPA template for doing comparisons, the comanche selected should be either a 180 or a 400

Actually the AOPA comparison is valid from the perspective it is based on two planes in the same rental fleet. Further, when you look at 210 for sale, I see many more turbo variants. When you look at the 36, many more are NA.
Therefore, the comparison in the article is based upon what is the most common variant of each model; and have similar price point ranges (or at least over lapping).

Tim

Username Protected · **Posted:** 23 May 2018, 12:48

Hi all and new to BT. This may be a bit off topic, so apologies in advance. I fly a P210 which is getting a Vitatoe conversion. It replaces the stock engine with a TN 550 with much improved performance.
Bo and 210 both great airplanes. When I was shopping I wanted ease of entry/exit, especially for my wife. Performance wasn't as important. I wonder how many made the buying decision based on that. Ultimately decided on a pressurized and now that I've flown it for 8 years, I won't go back.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 23 May 2018, 13:20

Steve, don’t be a trouble maker!

Username Protected · **Posted:** 23 May 2018, 13:37

Nobody's mentioned the most obvious benefit of a high wing:

Camping shade.

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Username Protected · **Posted:** 23 May 2018, 13:49

Username Protected wrote:

Nobody's mentioned the most obvious benefit of a high wing:

Camping shade.

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Nah, having hit my head a few times on high wings. Here is what they provide the most of:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 23 May 2018, 19:35

Now that I have gone to the 310 I have lost the camping shade, easy fuel drain, two doors and short field capabilites :scratch:

But now we can do the Baron, 310 flyoff.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 23 May 2018, 21:01

They flew a '75 C210 against a '92 A36 that was 200 lbs heavier empty. I would wager that extra 200 lbs accounted for much of the performance difference.

210 vs Bo AOPA Style