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Post subject: Re: 210 vs Bo AOPA Style Posted: 20 May 2018, 09:51 |
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Joined: 11/25/11 Posts: 9168 Post Likes: +17162 Location: KGNF, Grenada, MS
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Username Protected wrote: I’ve a friend who’s wife has difficulty getting in and out of their Debby so he’s getting into a 210. I'm guessing that if a fellow's girl friend had difficulty getting 'in and out" of a Debby, he might be in the hunt for a more agile girl friend. Jg
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Post subject: Re: 210 vs Bo AOPA Style Posted: 20 May 2018, 12:23 |
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Joined: 02/23/17 Posts: 170 Post Likes: +45 Location: KSSF
Aircraft: T210N,182Q,310R
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I have to fly my 210 out of my ranch strip to the nearest airport to pick up my buddy that flies there in his B36TC since it can't get out of my ranch strip.
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Post subject: Re: 210 vs Bo AOPA Style Posted: 20 May 2018, 13:39 |
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Joined: 12/29/14 Posts: 2048 Post Likes: +1507 Company: BeechFlyIn.com Location: Huntington Beach, CA (KFUL)
Aircraft: 1971 Bonanza A36
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Username Protected wrote: It's just a widely known fact that women much prefer a 210 over a Bonanza....when a 182 isn't available. That's not true for my wife. but then, she's very selective and has great taste. She won't settle for something pedestrian when she can have a Bonanza (and me) I can see why people like 210s and I think R182s are fantastic airplanes, but for me, my wife a large dog an not much more, I'll take the A36 over the 210 without even thinking. It's better looking, stronger, more fun to fly, and gives my passengers a sense of solid safety that the Cessnas have never really pulled off. I actually have about 3 times as much time in many types of Cessnas vs my time in Beechcraft. In my experience both passengers and other pilots make positive comments about the A36 much more than they do about the Cessnas. On the other hand, if I had to get my useful load up to 1500 pounds, then I guess a 210 would be an awesome choice. I don't have to do that - so - I don't have to do that.
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Post subject: Re: 210 vs Bo AOPA Style Posted: 20 May 2018, 16:17 |
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Joined: 03/28/17 Posts: 6678 Post Likes: +8018 Location: N. California
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Username Protected wrote: It's just a widely known fact that women much prefer a 210 over a Bonanza....when a 182 isn't available. That's not true for my wife. but then, she's very selective and has great taste. She won't settle for something pedestrian when she can have a Bonanza (and me) I can see why people like 210s and I think R182s are fantastic airplanes, but for me, my wife a large dog an not much more, I'll take the A36 over the 210 without even thinking. It's better looking, stronger, more fun to fly, and gives my passengers a sense of solid safety that the Cessnas have never really pulled off. I actually have about 3 times as much time in many types of Cessnas vs my time in Beechcraft. In my experience both passengers and other pilots make positive comments about the A36 much more than they do about the Cessnas. On the other hand, if I had to get my useful load up to 1500 pounds, then I guess a 210 would be an awesome choice. I don't have to do that - so - I don't have to do that.
OK; I'll admit I'm a closet Bonanza owner wannabe.
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Post subject: Re: 210 vs Bo AOPA Style Posted: 20 May 2018, 21:26 |
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Joined: 06/07/10 Posts: 8249 Post Likes: +7268 Location: Boise, ID (S78)
Aircraft: 1964 Bonanza S35
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Username Protected wrote: OK; I'll admit I'm a closet Bonanza owner wannabe. Everybody is. Otherwise, they wouldn’t be on BeechTalk trying to justify their Cessnas.
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Post subject: Re: 210 vs Bo AOPA Style Posted: 20 May 2018, 21:55 |
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Joined: 10/05/09 Posts: 286 Post Likes: +130 Location: Portland, Oregon
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Username Protected wrote: OK; I'll admit I'm a closet Bonanza owner wannabe. Everybody is. Otherwise, they wouldn’t be on BeechTalk trying to justify their Cessnas.
naaaahh, we are just here to learn about MU2s
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Post subject: Re: 210 vs Bo AOPA Style Posted: 21 May 2018, 10:29 |
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Joined: 11/06/10 Posts: 11898 Post Likes: +2854 Company: Looking Location: Outside Boston, or some hotel somewhere
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Username Protected wrote: OK; I'll admit I'm a closet Bonanza owner wannabe. Everybody is. Otherwise, they wouldn’t be on BeechTalk trying to justify their Cessnas.
Nah, I tried to like the Bonanza, but I could not stand the sloppy control feel, and the believed superiority of many Beech pilots. The superiority was caused by the great landings they could all do, which really was a function of the sloppy, forgiven and imprecise handling of the plane combined with a forgiving landing gear.
Put most Beech pilots in a Mooney and watch them get humbled as they learn what a real plane is.
Tim (go for it, I am ready!)
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Post subject: Re: 210 vs Bo AOPA Style Posted: 21 May 2018, 10:39 |
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Joined: 05/11/10 Posts: 12403 Post Likes: +11412 Location: Indiana
Aircraft: Cessna 185, RV-7
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Username Protected wrote: Put most Beech pilots in a J-3 Cub and watch them get humbled as they learn what a real plane is.
FIFY. Don't be a troll.
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Post subject: Re: 210 vs Bo AOPA Style Posted: 21 May 2018, 10:43 |
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Joined: 11/03/08 Posts: 14567 Post Likes: +22924 Location: Peachtree City GA / Stoke-On-Trent UK
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Username Protected wrote: Put most Beech/mooney/cessna/cherokee/cirrus pilots in a J-3 Cub and watch them get humbled as they learn what a real plane is.
FIFY. Don't be a troll.
one additional edit
sloppy control feel in a bonanza? that's a new one
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Post subject: Re: 210 vs Bo AOPA Style Posted: 21 May 2018, 11:28 |
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Joined: 11/06/10 Posts: 11898 Post Likes: +2854 Company: Looking Location: Outside Boston, or some hotel somewhere
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Username Protected wrote: one additional edit
sloppy control feel in a bonanza? that's a new one Actually, fly in a Mooney, Cirrus, Aerostar, PA-46. All of them have much more "twitchy" controls and are not as forgiving of being imprecise on the controls. Can you fly a Bonanza, Baron... precisely yes. But aerodynamically they accept being "sloppy" on the controls without much if any penalty to the pilot. What Beech managed to do, and is really an impressive feat of engineering, is have a very forgiving aerodynamics without significant drag penalty. Generally, the more forgiving the aerodynamics the higher the drag. Overall, probably one of the best compromises made in light GA. Tim
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Post subject: Re: 210 vs Bo AOPA Style Posted: 21 May 2018, 11:30 |
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Joined: 11/06/10 Posts: 11898 Post Likes: +2854 Company: Looking Location: Outside Boston, or some hotel somewhere
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Username Protected wrote: Put most Beech pilots in a J-3 Cub and watch them get humbled as they learn what a real plane is.
FIFY. Don't be a troll.
rofl. I think on BT, everyone knows I like to poke fun at dearly held assumptions; by any brand. And there is a reason I always specifically state when I am "trolling".
Tim
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Post subject: Re: 210 vs Bo AOPA Style Posted: 21 May 2018, 12:03 |
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Joined: 11/03/08 Posts: 14567 Post Likes: +22924 Location: Peachtree City GA / Stoke-On-Trent UK
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I guess i can't follow what you are trying to say, or why. But what i think I'm getting is that bonanzas are ridiculously easy to fly and are incredibly efficient. I agree with that 100%.
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Post subject: Re: 210 vs Bo AOPA Style Posted: 21 May 2018, 12:49 |
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Joined: 03/01/14 Posts: 2152 Post Likes: +1641 Location: 0TX0 Granbury TX
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Textron still makes the Bonanza; that has to say something.
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