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Post subject: Re: Why do we all seem to love Skylanes so much? Posted: 11 Dec 2017, 15:12 |
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Joined: 12/09/07 Posts: 17009 Post Likes: +12437 Location: Cascade, ID (U70)
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Quote: I called the guys at PPonk and they didn't believe in it. Funny. It actually does exist. No reason to deny it. If they don't believe in Santa Claus, I get that. It's wrong, but I get it. There are, as we know, people who build good engines, or who do good work on engines, who really don't understand the science of the internal combustion engine. It's much less than 15 or 20 years ago, and it still surprises me when I run into it. It's your engine. Do you own research. Run your engine any way you want.
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Post subject: Re: Why do we all seem to love Skylanes so much? Posted: 11 Dec 2017, 19:45 |
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Joined: 11/25/11 Posts: 9168 Post Likes: +17162 Location: KGNF, Grenada, MS
Aircraft: Baron, 180,195,J-3
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I have a friend that was a partner for a while in a 182 that had all those speed mods so got a chance to study it. It makes no sense to build up a 182 that can do 155+ knots as you now have a plane that can't go off road. 17 GPH for that speed? That's just dumb when the 550 Bonanza will do that on 11 GPH or slightly less. I've seen those wheel pants, they are much more effective than the essentially cosmetic ones I have for my 182 that are currently in my attic. To be that good they have to cover a lot of the tire, the last thing you want off pavement. Flap gap seals work by making the flaps less effective. The nose strut fairings were a constant source of complaint as well.[/quote] Scott, I never "heard" that flap gap seals make the flaps less effective. I'm not doubting you, just trying to figure out the reason why . So, what's the explanation? I put them on a '98 Skylane once and frankly couldn't tell any difference; speed or effectiveness. Jg Jg
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Post subject: Re: Why do we all seem to love Skylanes so much? Posted: 11 Dec 2017, 19:51 |
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Joined: 12/12/14 Posts: 917 Post Likes: +169 Location: Boise, ID
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It's probably easier and less hassle to just buy a 182RG, preferably a turbo one, for speed. They're comparative bargains too, so anything lost in opex is recovered in your purchase price.
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Post subject: Re: Why do we all seem to love Skylanes so much? Posted: 11 Dec 2017, 21:45 |
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Joined: 12/24/10 Posts: 90 Post Likes: +90 Location: Charleston, SC
Aircraft: C-182
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I believe it is because gap seals interrupt/block the airflow underneath the wing that typically flows over the top off the flaps when they are down.
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Post subject: Re: Why do we all seem to love Skylanes so much? Posted: 11 Dec 2017, 22:22 |
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Joined: 01/26/12 Posts: 854 Post Likes: +208 Location: SoCal
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I owned a C-182-Q for 26 years. Great airplane! The value of flap gap seals for Skylanes has been largely debunked. No increase in speed and they reduce the effectiveness of the Fowler Flaps. I did install aileron gap seals which improved roll rate and overall handling.
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Post subject: Re: Why do we all seem to love Skylanes so much? Posted: 12 Dec 2017, 01:01 |
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Joined: 05/29/14 Posts: 2884 Post Likes: +2938 Location: CEA3
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Username Protected wrote: It's probably easier and less hassle to just buy a 182RG, preferably a turbo one, for speed. They're comparative bargains too, so anything lost in opex is recovered in your purchase price. Try buying a main landing gear fitting for one of those! The price acts like it’s tied to bitcoin’s upswing. Murray
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Post subject: Re: Why do we all seem to love Skylanes so much? Posted: 12 Dec 2017, 01:09 |
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Joined: 12/12/14 Posts: 917 Post Likes: +169 Location: Boise, ID
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Username Protected wrote: I have come to love the Skylane. In fact, I'm shopping for another one. Does this mean fugly will be for sale soon?
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Post subject: Re: Why do we all seem to love Skylanes so much? Posted: 12 Dec 2017, 01:18 |
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Joined: 12/09/07 Posts: 17009 Post Likes: +12437 Location: Cascade, ID (U70)
Aircraft: C182
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Username Protected wrote: I have come to love the Skylane. In fact, I'm shopping for another one. Does this mean fugly will be for sale soon?
Oh, no. Fugly is perfect for what it does.
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Post subject: Re: Why do we all seem to love Skylanes so much? Posted: 12 Dec 2017, 08:11 |
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Joined: 11/25/11 Posts: 9168 Post Likes: +17162 Location: KGNF, Grenada, MS
Aircraft: Baron, 180,195,J-3
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Does this mean fugly will be for sale soon?[/quote] Oh, no. Fugly is perfect for what it does.[/quote] Another Skylane? Heck Tom, at least make number two a tail dragger version. Seriously, what "configuration" are you in search of? Jg
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Post subject: Re: Why do we all seem to love Skylanes so much? Posted: 12 Dec 2017, 08:50 |
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Joined: 12/09/07 Posts: 17009 Post Likes: +12437 Location: Cascade, ID (U70)
Aircraft: C182
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Username Protected wrote: Does this mean fugly will be for sale soon? Oh, no. Fugly is perfect for what it does.[/quote] Another Skylane? Heck Tom, at least make number two a tail dragger version. Seriously, what "configuration" are you in search of? Jg[/quote] We think alike, John. I’d love a 180. The wider cabin of ‘64 and later 182s is more comfortable. I’d love a 195, but I worry about getting it worked on when traveling. Anyone can work on a Skylane. Going with more simple and less expensive to buy and operate. Fugly up North. Another plane down South.
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Post subject: Re: Why do we all seem to love Skylanes so much? Posted: 12 Dec 2017, 10:59 |
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Joined: 09/23/09 Posts: 11873 Post Likes: +10532 Location: Cascade, Idaho (U70)
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Username Protected wrote: "Why do we all seem to love Skylanes so much?"
Two doors. Carry a good load. Best downward sightseeing visibility. Easy to climb into. No gear-up landings. Don't need a brand expert for maintenance. That last one is more significant than one might think. I'd also add: Value. A Skylane will do 99% of the typical pilot missions of a 180/185 at 1/2 the acquisition cost...
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