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Post subject: Why do we all seem to love Skylanes so much? Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 10:48 |
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Joined: 12/19/11 Posts: 3302 Post Likes: +1424 Company: Bottom Line Experts Location: KTOL - Toledo, OH
Aircraft: 2004 SR22 G2
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After 7 years of ownership, I finally parted from my share of our beloved '67 Skylane. I noticed I was hardly flying her for the past couple of years and decided I was a bit 'overplaned' (if there is such a thing). Clearly it was time for someone else to have the joy of flying her. Thankfully, the baton was passed to someone who's a perfect fit and he's very excited to begin flying N2830R.
Even though I'm not flying it much, I was still sad to pass the keys along, knowing how many fond memories we have flying her. Reflecting, it made me wonder why nearly all pilots seem to speak so highly and fondly of time they've spent in a Skylane. It isn't spectacular at any one aspect of flying but it does have a wonderful balance of attributes (decent speed, decent UL, decent sized cabin, inexpensive to maintain) but most importantly it was just fun and simple to fly. There are few complexities, little to worry about and was always a piece of cake to land.
I don't recall ever hearing a single pilot saying anything negative about a Skylane and I'm curious to hear others' reflection and why they think they are so endearing.
Fairwell N2830R. You gave us many very fond memories and served us so well for many years...
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_________________ Don Coburn Corporate Expense Reduction Specialist 2004 SR22 G2
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Post subject: Re: Why do we all seem to love Skylanes so much? Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 11:12 |
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Joined: 08/01/11 Posts: 6689 Post Likes: +4354 Location: In between the opioid and marijuana epidemics
Aircraft: 182, A36TC
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I have actually considered selling mine. I have had second thoughts.
It is the perfect plane for local and regional flying. Short fields, fill all seats and still have room for baggage and fuel, 11-12 gallons /hr LOP, unleaded fuel, and decent speed.
I just wish it was faster. Common issue even amongst jet owners.
This weekend it was windy and low level wind shear advisories in effect. 182 handled it without hesitation.
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Ryan Holt CFI
"Paranoia and PTSD are requirements not diseases"
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Post subject: Re: Why do we all seem to love Skylanes so much? Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 11:17 |
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Joined: 08/01/11 Posts: 6689 Post Likes: +4354 Location: In between the opioid and marijuana epidemics
Aircraft: 182, A36TC
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Don,
I agree with everything you said, except landings. The airplane teaches you to land correctly. Number one cause of accidents, especially the late models is pranged nose wheels. I have seen macho tail wheel pilots struggle with the 182, simply because they are afraid to haul the yoke into their lap. Lots of elevator authority if you are willing to use it.
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Ryan Holt CFI
"Paranoia and PTSD are requirements not diseases"
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Post subject: Re: Why do we all seem to love Skylanes so much? Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 11:20 |
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Joined: 10/19/08 Posts: 1487 Post Likes: +1743 Location: Far West Texas
Aircraft: B58, C180, GL 2T1A-2
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Because, unlike others, they have a "soul". One does not find this attribute in many other aircraft, but it is something that can be found among the BT folk and their Bonanzas. The complexity of the airplane appears to be in inverse relation to the magnitude of its "soul"
TN
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Post subject: Re: Why do we all seem to love Skylanes so much? Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 11:20 |
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Joined: 12/19/11 Posts: 3302 Post Likes: +1424 Company: Bottom Line Experts Location: KTOL - Toledo, OH
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Username Protected wrote: Don,
I agree with everything you said, except landings. The airplane teaches you to land correctly. Number one cause of accidents, especially the late models is pranged nose wheels. I have seen macho tail wheel pilots struggle with the 182, simply because they are afraid to haul the yoke into their lap. Lots of elevator authority if you are willing to use it. One piece of advice I was told when learning to fly it was never to use more than 30 deg of flaps. I practiced that on every landing and never had an issue with a nose wheel landing. Point a finger at a target on the runway and I could hit it nearly every time. The other thing that was helpful, I found, was rolling (2) full strokes of up trim on short final.
_________________ Don Coburn Corporate Expense Reduction Specialist 2004 SR22 G2
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Post subject: Re: Why do we all seem to love Skylanes so much? Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 12:56 |
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Joined: 12/19/11 Posts: 3302 Post Likes: +1424 Company: Bottom Line Experts Location: KTOL - Toledo, OH
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Username Protected wrote: Because we all flew one at one time or another? Was landing in Milwaukee last Saturday in pretty stiff cross winds. There was one in the pattern doing touch and go’s. I was thinking, hmmm, that could be a handful for a student... I think it's more than that. Most of us also flew Skyhawks at one point in time as well. I have no fond memories of flying a Skyhawk, other than it was my first.
_________________ Don Coburn Corporate Expense Reduction Specialist 2004 SR22 G2
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Post subject: Re: Why do we all seem to love Skylanes so much? Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 14:11 |
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Joined: 06/07/12 Posts: 536 Post Likes: +891 Location: Addison, TX
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Username Protected wrote: Also, someone show me an NTSB report with the wings or tail pulled off of a Skylane. You may find one, but you have will have to look hard.
I think there was a pilot who tried to cannon ball through a T-Storm in North Texas a few decades ago that didn't turn out well for him and his dog. Other than that, I can't think of one.
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Post subject: Re: Why do we all seem to love Skylanes so much? Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 14:21 |
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Joined: 11/21/09 Posts: 11864 Post Likes: +14520 Location: Albany, TX
Aircraft: Prior SR22T,V35B,182
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I was going to quote a post, then another, then another - we... mostly... think alike. My first two planes were 182's. Then a v-tail and an SR22TN. Back to the 182 while I worked with a condition I had with hearing. Once I felt like it was under control, I quickly decided I would go back to an SR. I set up email alerts for all new listings. After a couple months of flying the Skylane, I quit looking at the SR listings. After another few weeks, I cancelled the alerts. I really don't know why I enjoy it so much. It's more than the UL capability. Does it fly like a truck? I've heard that said 100 times. I really don't think it does. No, it's not as responsive as the v-tail by any means, but it's really quite pleasant in maneuvers. And I have never been more comfortable in IMC - it truly is a stable airplane that wants to fly right side up. Someone mentioned easy to land; then another, hard to land. When I first transitioned BACK to the 182 from the SR, I had trouble. The sight picture is considerably different - not as much from the Bo, but from the SR to the 182, it's a lot different. After I became aware of that, it's incredibly easy to land. I still think about speed some, but at 8k' and 10.8 GPH, I true about 142 KTAS. I don't like the dry sinuses that come with o2, and I don't like the ear pressure from flying high. It was the main reason I came back to the 182. In the first 11 months, I've changed an EGT probe and the oil. The last time I was that trouble free was my last 182. But the two previous paragraphs aside - I love flying it. And while I can't place my finger on why, it's the first time in a long while that I'm constantly wanting the next opportunity to fly. At the price point of a 400 hour '12 model, there are a lot of other options. And I'm not interested in any of them. Even to me, that's weird.
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