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Post subject: Re: Why do we all seem to love Skylanes so much? Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 22:42 |
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Joined: 02/25/17 Posts: 237 Post Likes: +94 Location: Winnipeg, Canada
Aircraft: P210 SE, C182
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Username Protected wrote: Here's mine - With Wing X, Sportsman STOL, IO550 and 400 lb upgross kit, its makes for a pretty awesome floatplane I'm thinking a border crossing is in order next summer...gorgeous! Question - please don't laugh if it's stupid. Is an amphib Cessna to/land from a smooth grass strip more than once? Of course Matt - you or any other friendly pilot are welcome any time!! Amphibs can easily take off and land (more than once) from reasonable decent grass strips. Amphibs are great but i chose straight floats as i didn't want to loose the 200 lbs payload by having the wheels. ($70K for the amphibs are possibly a deterrent as well,... )
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Post subject: Re: Why do we all seem to love Skylanes so much? Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 23:19 |
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Joined: 12/19/11 Posts: 3303 Post Likes: +1424 Company: Bottom Line Experts Location: KTOL - Toledo, OH
Aircraft: 2004 SR22 G2
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Username Protected wrote: Was a handful to learn in at first. Heavy nose I thought but I was wrong. My PPL instructor would not allow anyone to trim after they were on the downwind. That worked in his 150 and 172 but made the 182 very heavy landing. As it slowed down in the pattern to final appch speeds the nose would get heavier right through the flair. I know that the purpose was to make the frequent GA's much safer and easier in the 182.
That’s just absolutely wrong advice. If you use 30 Deg of flaps only and put in two rolls of nose up trim (grab the top of the trim wheel and roll to the bottom 2 Times), you will be perfectly set up for landing, it won’t feel nose heavy and you won’t ever hit the nose wheel. It’s a piece of cake.
_________________ Don Coburn Corporate Expense Reduction Specialist 2004 SR22 G2
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Post subject: Re: Why do we all seem to love Skylanes so much? Posted: 24 Oct 2017, 01:02 |
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Joined: 04/12/16 Posts: 105 Post Likes: +33 Location: Madison, WI
Aircraft: C182
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Put about 500 hours on my 182 since I picked her up 2 years ago. Hard to pick out a favorite photo for this thread, there’s too many. Here’s probably my proudest moment, after landing in Ketchikan, my first time on Alaskan soil. Attachment: 0A19FE17-3A05-4481-BD31-DA2E12894A68.jpeg
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Post subject: Re: Why do we all seem to love Skylanes so much? Posted: 24 Oct 2017, 07:48 |
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Joined: 08/15/11 Posts: 2398 Post Likes: +1063 Location: Mandan, ND
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Username Protected wrote: Here's mine - With Wing X, Sportsman STOL, IO550 and 400 lb upgross kit, its makes for a pretty awesome floatplane Because you can do this to it... I have tons of tîme in C82Rs. While not quite the same as C182 of the same vintage, they fly the same. Used for my CFI and had good manners doing maneuvers. Easy to teach in and when properly trimmed flies nice. Maybe because of all the time in C82Rs, I tend to like the restart models better. TIO or IO-540. Not a fan of the O-470, for whatever reason. Probably because they don't sound as good as a 540. We got rid of our C82R a couple years ago and lately I find myself missing it.
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Post subject: Re: Why do we all seem to love Skylanes so much? Posted: 24 Oct 2017, 08:00 |
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Joined: 03/11/12 Posts: 283 Post Likes: +151
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Skylanes are great (i have owned two) until you are on a 500 mile cross country and have a 25 or 30 knot headwind. Then it is torture. That's why I have a J model Mooney now. With that kind of headwind it is as fast as a Skylane without a headwind.
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Post subject: Re: Why do we all seem to love Skylanes so much? Posted: 24 Oct 2017, 08:37 |
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Joined: 07/02/08 Posts: 2199 Post Likes: +460 Company: HPA Location: Twin Cities, MN (KANE)
Aircraft: BE58, C182
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I'm a fan - we have had ours to 35 states. All of the lower 48 would have happened by now except our Baron came along. They nest very nicely together in the hangar. I have often wondered what their children would look like. Mine, a 1964 G, was Dad's. I would have happily owned anything he had flown but am so glad he bought this one. Slow but fast enough, stable, great views, and a lot of fun to fly. We've significantly modified ours with a PPONK and a lot of panel work. Contrary to Don's advice I land with full flaps every time and have yet to prang the nose. It does take full nose up trim on final when only the front seats have occupants (no surprise - I have the short tail feathers). Attachment: DSC_0084.jpg Attachment: IMG_6669.jpg
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_________________ Jack Shelton 1964 C-182G PPONK 1973 BE-58
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Post subject: Re: Why do we all seem to love Skylanes so much? Posted: 24 Oct 2017, 13:43 |
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Joined: 08/01/11 Posts: 6778 Post Likes: +4528 Location: In between the opioid and marijuana epidemics
Aircraft: 182, A36TC
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On the S and T models if you trim white on white it will give you 65. Elevator authority is not an issue. Pilot authority is. I usually use full flaps. It works fine.
_________________ Fly High,
Ryan Holt CFI
"Paranoia and PTSD are requirements not diseases"
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Post subject: Re: Why do we all seem to love Skylanes so much? Posted: 24 Oct 2017, 20:20 |
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Joined: 07/04/11 Posts: 1712 Post Likes: +242 Company: W. John Gadd, Esq. Location: Florida
Aircraft: C55 Baron
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I'm thinking a border crossing is in order next summer...gorgeous! Question - please don't laugh if it's stupid. Is an amphib Cessna to/land from a smooth grass strip more than once?[/quote] Of course Matt - you or any other friendly pilot are welcome any time!! Amphibs can easily take off and land (more than once) from reasonable decent grass strips. Amphibs are great but i chose straight floats as i didn't want to loose the 200 lbs payload by having the wheels. ($70K for the amphibs are possibly a deterrent as well,... )[/quote] Yeah. The prices are nuts.
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Post subject: Re: Why do we all seem to love Skylanes so much? Posted: 24 Oct 2017, 20:28 |
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Joined: 02/25/17 Posts: 237 Post Likes: +94 Location: Winnipeg, Canada
Aircraft: P210 SE, C182
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Username Protected wrote: Was a handful to learn in at first. Heavy nose I thought but I was wrong. My PPL instructor would not allow anyone to trim after they were on the downwind. That worked in his 150 and 172 but made the 182 very heavy landing. As it slowed down in the pattern to final appch speeds the nose would get heavier right through the flair. I know that the purpose was to make the frequent GA's much safer and easier in the 182.
That’s just absolutely wrong advice. If you use 30 Deg of flaps only and put in two rolls of nose up trim (grab the top of the trim wheel and roll to the bottom 2 Times), you will be perfectly set up for landing, it won’t feel nose heavy and you won’t ever hit the nose wheel. It’s a piece of cake. And with 400 lbs of floats hanging off the bottom in a seaplane configuration, there is not enough trim wheel to take the weight off the yolk. 35 deg. is approved, but it drops like a stone so you have to be fully awake in the flare.
Garth
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Post subject: Re: Why do we all seem to love Skylanes so much? Posted: 24 Oct 2017, 21:41 |
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Joined: 12/29/12 Posts: 656 Post Likes: +256
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I would someday like to fly a Peterson katmai or Kenai. They look like real performers.
Rgs
Patrick
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Post subject: Re: Why do we all seem to love Skylanes so much? Posted: 25 Oct 2017, 08:29 |
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Joined: 11/21/09 Posts: 11898 Post Likes: +14666 Location: Albany, TX
Aircraft: Prior SR22T,V35B,182
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Username Protected wrote: Serious question, how can a bonanza have less maintenance then a 182? I saw that, too, but let it go as a pride of ownership thing on a largely Beech board. No doubt, a Bo is a terrific plane, but it’s not as maintenance free. No one would expect it to be. This isn’t about why one is better than the other. While they can have the same mission, they often don’t, as evidenced by the large number on BT that have one of each.
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