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Andy, that's pretty economical for a jet.

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You forgot a Cessna 310k.

(860.7nm, 185kts, 138pph (23gal/hr), 6 stops)
Flight Time: 27hrs
Fuel stop time: 6hrs
Total time: 33hrs
Fuel burn: 621.6gal

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Andy, that's pretty economical for a jet.

Yes it is

Fun fact from Bangor Maine to San Diego 2344nm or from Boeing Field to Key West is 2367nm

I can carry 600 lbs 800nm against a 95kt headwind

So in an Eclipse in the continental US you’re never going to make more than 2 stops wherever you go.


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Here’s my Napa CA back to Atlanta (Peachtree) the other day..... non stop


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Here’s my Napa CA back to Atlanta (Peachtree) the other day..... non stop


What altitude and fuel flow was that? Is 257 your long range TAS? How much fuel did you land with?


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Here’s my Napa CA back to Atlanta (Peachtree) the other day..... non stop


How accurate is your fuel computer? You feel alright with 0.3 showing for fuel at destination?


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Here’s my Napa CA back to Atlanta (Peachtree) the other day..... non stop


Wow, long day! Did you go to Napa before the fires? We were scheduled to go to Yountville last weekend but it cancelled.

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Here’s my Napa CA back to Atlanta (Peachtree) the other day..... non stop


Could easily do that trip non-stop in the M600 as well, at normal cruise, or hit anywhere in the Continental US at reduced power 230 KTAS. Just have to use a smaller Lav (Travel John ;) )

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Here’s my Napa CA back to Atlanta (Peachtree) the other day..... non stop


What altitude and fuel flow was that? Is 257 your long range TAS? How much fuel did you land with?

I cruised at FL270

I landed with 300Lbs as you can see in the picture. That's almost an hour of fuel

I was 257TAS because I had 6 on board, bags, 12 cases of wine and full fuel and it was hot.

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Here’s my Napa CA back to Atlanta (Peachtree) the other day..... non stop


How accurate is your fuel computer? You feel alright with 0.3 showing for fuel at destination?

.3 = 300lbs. That's almost an hour of fuel. VFR day.

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That's a long day in the seat Jason!

Compared to what?

Driving from Napa to SFO then flying to ATL then driving from ATL to my house is easily 2X longer than flying the PC12.

Plus, what jet could operate with the load I had out of a 5K' runway and make it non stop?


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That's a long day in the seat Jason!

Compared to what?

Driving from Napa to SFO then flying to ATL then driving from ATL to my house is easily 2X longer than flying the PC12.

Plus, what jet could operate with the load I had out of a 5K' runway and make it non stop?


Just a long day. I did KJAC - KPWA - KDAY - KBED a couple weeks ago in about the same time and I was pretty tired. It's impressive how these airplanes can move around the country.
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Plus, what jet could operate with the load I had out of a 5K' runway and make it non stop?


oh, I know this one :D

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Could easily do that trip non-stop in the M600 as well, at normal cruise, or hit anywhere in the Continental US at reduced power 230 KTAS. Just have to use a smaller Lav (Travel John ;) )




That's pretty impressive............weird looking map of America or am I just blind?

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