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Post subject: Which LSA for primary flight training ? Posted: 06 Oct 2017, 14:38 |
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Joined: 01/24/11 Posts: 465 Post Likes: +412 Location: Hanover, NH
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I am toying with the idea of obtaining a light aircraft to facilitate primary flight training for several young people.
Ordinarily, I would probably purchase a 172, or maybe a 152.
However, its possible one of the young people being considered may not be able to get a Class III medical at present, although a driver's license won't be a problem, and flying a light aircraft is not likely to be either (thank you, FAA medicos... but that's another topic.) I anticipate that this young person will, someday in the future, be eligible for a medical and will then want to transition to more typical 4- or 6-seat GA aircraft.
So, for now, I'm thinking an appropriate LSA. Don't know much about them.
I've looked online at a Flight Designs CTLS, a Van's RV-12, a Cessna SkyCatcher, and a Ran's S-6S or S-7LS. I think a newer tricycle gear airplane is probably best, but have also considered a Luscombe, Champ or Taylorcraft.
Any suggestions?
Thanks, John
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Post subject: Re: Which LSA for primary flight training ? Posted: 06 Oct 2017, 16:03 |
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Joined: 01/13/11 Posts: 1716 Post Likes: +878 Location: San Francisco, CA
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Quote: Cessna SkyCatcher, I would worry about support for that one. There are extremely few of them that didn't go to the crusher. Yes, they have a 0-200 engine but it is a "D" version, not the common "C" version, the Crankshaft, Camshaft, Pistons, and Crankcase are different from all other versions. I would put into my decision database if they can run on cargas (not Mogas) as Mogas may not be available. A fellow airport rat has a Flightdesigns that he runs exclusivly on cargas. He gets 100 hrs between oil changes and the longterm life of his engine is greatly improved.
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Post subject: Re: Which LSA for primary flight training ? Posted: 06 Oct 2017, 17:02 |
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I would consider, in order of preference:
1. champ 2. aeronca 3. champion 4. RV12
perhaps I'm showing a slight bias, it's been known to happen
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Post subject: Re: Which LSA for primary flight training ? Posted: 06 Oct 2017, 18:01 |
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Joined: 01/13/11 Posts: 1716 Post Likes: +878 Location: San Francisco, CA
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Another thing to consider in this venture is I have heard (you need to verify) that if one gets a light sport license but is taught by a regular (not light sport) CFI the hours of instruction can be counted toward a regular (not light sport) license. Hours taught by a light sport instructor need to be redone when going toward a regular license.
_________________ Tom Schiff CA 35 San Rafael/Smith Ranch airport.
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Post subject: Re: Which LSA for primary flight training ? Posted: 06 Oct 2017, 18:17 |
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Citabria or early Legend Cub.
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Post subject: Re: Which LSA for primary flight training ? Posted: 06 Oct 2017, 19:02 |
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Joined: 01/24/11 Posts: 465 Post Likes: +412 Location: Hanover, NH
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Username Protected wrote: I would consider, in order of preference:
1. champ 2. aeronca 3. champion 4. RV12
perhaps I'm showing a slight bias, it's been known to happen Like the Champ, do you? That might turn out to be the best option, if my friends who own one and have a place to keep it would let me use it. But that's a BIG "if" so I'm not counting on it. John
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Post subject: Re: Which LSA for primary flight training ? Posted: 06 Oct 2017, 19:03 |
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Joined: 01/24/11 Posts: 465 Post Likes: +412 Location: Hanover, NH
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Username Protected wrote: I'd be inclined to go for the overall good of the group and get a 150 or 160hp cherokee. So would I, except for the fact that the one who is drooling at the mouth to fly is the same one who can't get a medical at the moment. John
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Post subject: Re: Which LSA for primary flight training ? Posted: 06 Oct 2017, 19:04 |
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Joined: 01/24/11 Posts: 465 Post Likes: +412 Location: Hanover, NH
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Username Protected wrote: I taught in the high wing Tecnam (P92 Echo), nice flying airplane. Good to know. That one looks awfully nice to me, but maybe its because it looks so much like a 152 or 172! John
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Post subject: Re: Which LSA for primary flight training ? Posted: 06 Oct 2017, 19:05 |
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Joined: 01/24/11 Posts: 465 Post Likes: +412 Location: Hanover, NH
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Username Protected wrote: Citabria or early Legend Cub. I will have to look at those... not too familiar with them. Thanks for the suggestions. John
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Post subject: Re: Which LSA for primary flight training ? Posted: 06 Oct 2017, 19:06 |
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Joined: 01/24/11 Posts: 465 Post Likes: +412 Location: Hanover, NH
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Username Protected wrote: Another thing to consider in this venture is I have heard (you need to verify) that if one gets a light sport license but is taught by a regular (not light sport) CFI the hours of instruction can be counted toward a regular (not light sport) license. Hours taught by a light sport instructor need to be redone when going toward a regular license. Interesting. I don't even know a "light sport instructor" nor did I know that such a thing existed. In any event, the instruction would be given by a regular CFI or CFII. Maybe even by myself, if I decide its worth it to get the CFI to do it. John
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Post subject: Re: Which LSA for primary flight training ? Posted: 06 Oct 2017, 19:26 |
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Don't forget, if you wish this aircraft to also be used for private pilot students, it will need lights for the night flying requirement, and at least basic gyros for the 3 hours of instrument training. Kind of rules out the Champ, at least the original ones.
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Post subject: Re: Which LSA for primary flight training ? Posted: 06 Oct 2017, 19:45 |
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Username Protected wrote: I would consider, in order of preference:
1. champ 2. aeronca 3. champion 4. RV12
perhaps I'm showing a slight bias, it's been known to happen Kids aren't going to want to be flying something that was built during their great-grandfather's salad days. How about a Bristell?
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