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 Post subject: Re: PC-12 training
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Stan, ping me. I would not go initial at either Flight Safety or Simcom. I would use either Dave B or Shane J for initial............

looking forward to getting your thoughts on the bird. Buy you an aero seat for that airplane. Best $200 you will ever spend in aviation........



I used Shane J at 3 Green. Excellent airplane training...

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 Post subject: Re: PC-12 training
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looking forward to getting your thoughts on the bird. Buy you an aero seat for that airplane. Best $200 you will ever spend in aviation........


Dang! And I just sold mine. Does this also apply to the NG seats?


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 Post subject: Re: PC-12 training
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I'm taking the 2-day Apex course this weekend for $2,390. PIREP to follow.

Ask for Marcia (pronounced Mar-cee-ah) Birmingham at SIMCOM if you need a price on any course.


Hi Don,
For some additional study, Honeywell also publishes some good YouTube videos for various Apex tasks

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... zIe3jcwxBy


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I'm taking the 2-day Apex course this weekend for $2,390. PIREP to follow.

Ask for Marcia (pronounced Mar-cee-ah) Birmingham at SIMCOM if you need a price on any course.


Hi Don,
For some additional study, Honeywell also publishes some good YouTube videos for various Apex tasks

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... zIe3jcwxBy



Thanks Brent! These should keep me busy until the SIMCOM class tomorrow. I also found these: http://honeywellapax.sweb.cz/

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If you have no familiarity with the Apex, good idea to take that class before starting the initial course. My sim partner when I did the initial was an air ambulance pilot from Alaska used to flying ancient Commanders with steam gauges... he was completely lost on the Apex and kept trying to flip it back to "green needles", lol.

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Collins should make videos like this.... :thumbup:

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I thought that the APEX class at SIMCOM was an incredible ripoff. I was looking forward to a world opening up in front of me, and it turns out, I could have taught it.

If you can get your hooks on the APEX sim software that comes with a new airplane (unknown if there are other sources), spend several hours on it with a QRH, and watch the honeywell vids, you won't need the class.

I took it in late 13 or early 14, and it was basically just the Honeywell vids anyway, plus hotel & rental car.

Hopefully, my report is obsolete, and they've overhauled the course...

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Collins should make videos like this.... :thumbup:


No kidding!

If I were in charge, I'd want the sims on kids' Playstations! They act like it's the plans for a Trident submarine. What do they think? Someone is going to build a wildly successful avionics platform in the garage, because they got to play with the sim?

I'd love to know what I'm missing in that strategy.

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I thought that the APEX class at SIMCOM was an incredible ripoff. I was looking forward to a world opening up in front of me, and it turns out, I could have taught it.

If you can get your hooks on the APEX sim software that comes with a new airplane (unknown if there are other sources), spend several hours on it with a QRH, and watch the honeywell vids, you won't need the class.

I took it in late 13 or early 14, and it was basically just the Honeywell vids anyway, plus hotel & rental car.

Hopefully, my report is obsolete, and they've overhauled the course...


I anticipated this might be the case. So I told the instructor ahead of time I found the Honeywell videos on a .cz, Czech Republic, domain and watched them all. My aim for the class is to develop muscle memory practicing different scenarios.

This is an expensive way just to get my hand on the CCD. But I felt I had to do it for a sim eval on Wednesday. I reached out to some Pilatus drivers offering to sit right seat but nothing came out of it.

SIMCOM offers 1:1 courses tailored to your individual needs. PIREP to follow.

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Edited: never mind...apparently these are not the Honeywell APEX videos, according to the link, http://honeywellapax.sweb.cz/Lesson11_FMS_Overview/, these are APAX videos. My bad.


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I thought that the APEX class at SIMCOM was an incredible ripoff. I was looking forward to a world opening up in front of me, and it turns out, I could have taught it.

+1

I never took an Apex course. If you can operate a Garmin 430 and an STEC Autopilot you can figure out APEX.

Direct to ENTER ENTER NAV AP. Done


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Direct to ENTER ENTER NAV AP. Done


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Once you're using it it's very self explanatory. Whatever you're looking for, just click on it on the screen and a menu will pop up and you can figure it out.


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After watching the videos, I feel proficient to fly the NG in an emergency, just not enough to demonstrate instrument proficiency for a Chief Pilot.


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After watching the videos, I feel proficient to fly the NG in an emergency, just not enough to demonstrate instrument proficiency for a Chief Pilot.

Really you just gotta fly and press buttons for hours til you figure it all out. Repetition.

When I'm at Simcom they try and cover the whole thing when in reality you probably use 50% of what it can do 99.9% of the time. You'll use the same 10 things every flight.

There are a million little shortcuts and whiz bang things you'll never use enough to remember.

By far the most useful part of APEX that takes practice is building your own approaches to any runway in the world. It's really cool and you can use it in case of an engine out in low IMC. I use it all the time VFR just to stay in practice and it's spot on every time. Set yourself a 6-8 degree glide slope from 10K' and APEX will show where to intercept and the plane will "glide" itself right to the numbers using VNAV. Really cool and I don't believe Garmin has an equivalent.


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I thought that the APEX class at SIMCOM was an incredible ripoff.


Thanks for saying! Makes one wonder about the rest of the course too?

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