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Post subject: Re: Rans S-7s Courier; Anyone have experience or opinions? Posted: 02 Oct 2017, 16:31 |
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Joined: 05/11/10 Posts: 12403 Post Likes: +11410 Location: Indiana
Aircraft: Cessna 185, RV-7
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Username Protected wrote: i'd much rather a vans than a rans
is there some sort of large price gap? i've never researched the rans, just haven't seen anything i've been impressed with (crashes included) RANS are very popular with the bush/STOL crowd. Totally different market than Van's.
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Post subject: Re: Rans S-7s Courier; Anyone have experience or opinions? Posted: 02 Oct 2017, 18:49 |
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Joined: 11/16/10 Posts: 9049 Post Likes: +7334 Location: Buffalo MN KCFE
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Username Protected wrote: I've flown this plane, it's very nice. Owners health is forcing sale. PM for details. Greg
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Post subject: Re: Rans S-7s Courier; Anyone have experience or opinions? Posted: 14 Oct 2017, 10:04 |
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Joined: 04/01/13 Posts: 6268 Post Likes: +6942 Location: Overland Park, KS (KOJC)
Aircraft: 1975 Bonanza F33A
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I flew out to visit RANs last week in Hays Ks. I took one of my sons and an A&P friend, we had a very nice visit and factory tour. The wind was blowing pretty hard so I didn't get a demo flight. The factory is a good deal bigger than I'd imagined. Lot's of interesting C&C machines and friendly people. It's spotlessly clean and organized; impressive. One thing that became clear is that it's going to be easy to build. Since they are building finished LSA planes out there, we got see most of the procedures that go into the build. It all looks straightforward. I'm going to order the wing kit next week and hopefully get started on the build within the next few weeks. Jack I got home and realized I didn't take a single picture.
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Post subject: Re: Rans S-7s Courier; Anyone have experience or opinions? Posted: 14 Oct 2017, 15:27 |
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Joined: 12/13/07 Posts: 19859 Post Likes: +9566 Location: Seeley Lake, MT (23S)
Aircraft: 1964 Bonanza S35
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Username Protected wrote: One thing that became clear is that it's going to be easy to build.
Two of my neighbors, one an A&P, went together and just finished building an S-20. It took them 2.5 years start to finish. The FAA will be here next month for the initial inspection. There were countless calls to the factory as well as other builders and friends when something didn't make sense. Watching them build this only reinforced in me that I would never build a plane. The worst part for them was the paint, the Stewart system caused all kinds of problems and not in a million years would they do it that way again.
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Post subject: Re: Rans S-7s Courier; Anyone have experience or opinions? Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 14:21 |
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Joined: 02/13/11 Posts: 309 Post Likes: +92 Location: Austn, TX (KEDC)
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Username Protected wrote: The worst part for them was the paint, the Stewart system caused all kinds of problems and not in a million years would they do it that way again. I'm thinking Oratex when I get around to it.
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Post subject: Re: Rans S-7s Courier; Anyone have experience or opinions? Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 14:33 |
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Joined: 11/03/08 Posts: 14564 Post Likes: +22916 Location: Peachtree City GA / Stoke-On-Trent UK
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Username Protected wrote: The worst part for them was the paint, the Stewart system caused all kinds of problems and not in a million years would they do it that way again. something not right there. the stewart system uses a charcoal-based coating for the UV block. The liquids are all water-based and easy to work with. Paint adhesion over the top is very good, you see people using just about anything for paint. IMO your friends had something else going on there.
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Post subject: Re: Rans S-7s Courier; Anyone have experience or opinions? Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 16:24 |
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Joined: 11/03/08 Posts: 14564 Post Likes: +22916 Location: Peachtree City GA / Stoke-On-Trent UK
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Jack, the only complaint i hear about oratex is the tapes being somewhat stubborn, since you can't just keep gluing like with pre-paint systems.
personally i love the stewart system
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Post subject: Re: Rans S-7s Courier; Anyone have experience or opinions? Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 16:25 |
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Joined: 12/13/07 Posts: 19859 Post Likes: +9566 Location: Seeley Lake, MT (23S)
Aircraft: 1964 Bonanza S35
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Username Protected wrote: something not right there. the stewart system uses a charcoal-based coating for the UV block. The liquids are all water-based and easy to work with. Paint adhesion over the top is very good, you see people using just about anything for paint. IMO your friends had something else going on there. Not easy to work with. One of the guys is an A&P and has painted before. Another friend happened by for a few months last winter and helped out during painting, he's an IA up in Alaska and has painted a lot. While he was here he rebuilt a 175 and did some painting since the booth was set up in the hangar. He wouldn't touch that type paint again either. Their original plan was to take the plane to the local body shop but got talked into this way of doing it. They won't make that mistake again.
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Post subject: Re: Rans S-7s Courier; Anyone have experience or opinions? Posted: 18 Dec 2017, 15:38 |
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Joined: 04/01/13 Posts: 6268 Post Likes: +6942 Location: Overland Park, KS (KOJC)
Aircraft: 1975 Bonanza F33A
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I bought the wing kit and had it delivered about a month ago. I got to the first real milestone this weekend; I finished the left wing. The kit is excellent. All the parts are high quality and everything fits together perfectly. The documentation is excellent, but even still I've spent an inordinate amount of time pouring over the descriptions and drawings. The second wing should go a lot faster. I'm quite pleased with the pace the project is progressing. The first wing done in a month, I expect to have the right wing done after the New Years break. If I get it done on that schedule, then it will be only 6 weeks to build the wings. I've mentally budgeted 2 years for the project, but it looks like it may go much faster. Here are some pictures to show that it did happen: Jack Attachment: IMG_2425.JPG Attachment: IMG_0845.JPG Attachment: IMG_2191.jpg
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Post subject: Re: Rans S-7s Courier; Anyone have experience or opinions? Posted: 18 Dec 2017, 17:05 |
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Joined: 04/01/13 Posts: 6268 Post Likes: +6942 Location: Overland Park, KS (KOJC)
Aircraft: 1975 Bonanza F33A
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Username Protected wrote: Is anyone else jealous of JL’s shop? Nicely done on that wing. Look foreword to your build pics... My shop is sweet. I tell people I bought the shop and a pretty nice house came along with it. The bonus is that it's about 1200' from my T-Hangar at KOJC. (Well, I guess you might say my former T-Hangar; it's still not repaired from the storm in March.) Jack
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Post subject: Re: Rans S-7s Courier; Anyone have experience or opinions? Posted: 08 Feb 2018, 16:28 |
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Joined: 04/01/13 Posts: 6268 Post Likes: +6942 Location: Overland Park, KS (KOJC)
Aircraft: 1975 Bonanza F33A
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Update: The right wing is almost done. Oratex Fabric should be here any day. With luck, I should start covering the wings this weekend and have them covered before the fuselage gets here in about a month. This is one of the few projects I've ever started where it looks like it will go faster than predicted. I'm now thinking it will fly Spring of 2019, and take a little over a year. Attachment: IMG_6524.JPG Jack
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