JGG, you're right. A Supercub is a motorcycle.

I can't accept that, because it would mean that a Champ or J3 is a moped. And i won't ride a moped.

I can't accept that, because it would mean that a Champ or J3 is a moped. And i won't ride a moped.

Now that I have a 182 again and have flown it some certain things about it are annoying. I have the narrow body which does factor into it.

1.) Since Cessna's have poorly made seat rails you have to have a secondary seat stop. Ours has the red doo hickey with the knob on top that slides up and down the rail. It would be great if I could actually reach the rail between the seats without great effort. Narrow body means no room between the seats. Requires way too much effort to do this after getting in and prior to getting out. Potential safety issue in an emergency. Cannot do it fast.

2.) There's no where to put anything. I have pockets, shelves and bins everywhere in the Bonanza. The rear seat footwell means nothing can roll or slide back to the rear. In the 182 there is no glove box, no front sidewall pockets and only the two seat back pockets. That and putting stuff on the back seat.

All that and the early Cessna's have very little useful load. Ours is 850 pounds. Fill it with 55 gallons of gas(that's right, small tanks even) and 3 guys in the plane puts you over gross.

Scott, I had a 1958 182B, and the narrow cabin was ... uncomfortable.

My '67 K model is 4 inches wider. Much better! I haven't done it, but you can get a storage unit to go between the front seats.

I think the max gross weight increased with a couple of models after mine.

When the Baron sells, I'll probably be looking for a nice IFR Skylane for down here.

Now that I have a 182 again and have flown it some certain things about it are annoying. I have the narrow body which does factor into it.

1.) Since Cessna's have poorly made seat rails you have to have a secondary seat stop. Ours has the red doo hickey with the knob on top that slides up and down the rail. It would be great if I could actually reach the rail between the seats without great effort. Narrow body means no room between the seats. Requires way too much effort to do this after getting in and prior to getting out. Potential safety issue in an emergency. Cannot do it fast.

2.) There's no where to put anything. I have pockets, shelves and bins everywhere in the Bonanza. The rear seat footwell means nothing can roll or slide back to the rear. In the 182 there is no glove box, no front sidewall pockets and only the two seat back pockets. That and putting stuff on the back seat.

All that and the early Cessna's have very little useful load. Ours is 850 pounds. Fill it with 55 gallons of gas(that's right, small tanks even) and 3 guys in the plane puts you over gross.

I had that with my other 182, really nice and an arm rest to boot. But you can't get them for the narrow bodies.

We want to do that as well but that's not really the main issue. All the stuff I use every flight has a spot in the Bo. Glasses case, phone, extra charging cords, various power charts, small flashlight. Stuff like that.






I think what happened here is previous owners removed those. Glove box went away with the new panel. Same for the sidewall pockets when the interior got redone.

This is spot on, except I would add that a 180HP PA18 can carry a lot of load. But it really is a 1 hour of fun at a time kind of plane.

AG

Im not sure if they are still offering it but I'm pretty sure Cessna was supplying the inertial reel style seat stop kit for free in the past. Ive read complaints from others but so far I have none, it is locked and unlocked with the original lever that allows to the seat to slide forward and aft so you wouldnt even know its there if you didnt look for it. I can understand wanting a mechanical device behind the seat though. I do a "seat locked" check on pre flight. Ive also heard about the seat rail issues but mine are 53 years old and are still in great shape.

Ive never seen a 182 (or any cessna) without a glove box, must be a narrow body thing, good to know. My main complaint in my 210 interior (and most cessna's) is no cup holders. Edit: Just saw your later post saying the prev owner removed it. That makes sense.

Ive never heard anyone complain about a 182's load carrying ability lol. 850 lb does sound pretty low but I havent flown a narrow body 182. Yours must have a lot equipment/a heavy interior? Im sure we've all heard someone say "if it fits it'll fly" and while I dont agree with that philosophy, Ive seen people that obviously do load them to the gills and take off in 100 deg heat with no problems.

I love the 182.

Yep..... through the years, the max gross has grown on the plane as the plane's empty weight grew.
Our 61D model max gross is 2650. That slowly progressed through 2800 then 2950 then 3100.
Of course, nothing aerodynamically really changed on the plane except the fuselage got bigger. Same engine etc.
Short of absurdity, I've never seen anybody worry about max gross in a 182. "if it will go in, it will fly" was coined for the 182.

You know your over gross or CG in a 182 when you pull mixture and the tail sits down on the ramp.

Equipment we have, in spades. We are at 1794 empty with all seats in. The 67 182 I used to have had 645 left over after full 80 gallons tanks.

Equipment we have, in spades. We are at 1794 empty with all seats in. The 67 182 I used to have had 645 left over after full 80 gallons tanks.

Jay, don't forget to ask about tire size if you start talking cruise speeds