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 Post subject: Re: Lancair IV-P Revelations
PostPosted: 26 Jun 2017, 19:10 
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Michael, tell me about insurance. That is the hold up for me.
What company, if you have it (not broker, but company).
I cant risk going bare with such an asset.

Not even liability insurance? Lack of hull is one thing. Lack of liability would worry me.


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 Post subject: Re: Lancair IV-P Revelations
PostPosted: 26 Jun 2017, 20:54 
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Michael, tell me about insurance. That is the hold up for me.
What company, if you have it (not broker, but company).
I cant risk going bare with such an asset.

Not even liability insurance? Lack of hull is one thing. Lack of liability would worry me.


Hi Fred -
We have handled numerous placements over the years on all Lancair models (mostly Legacys, IV/IVP's and Evos) - yes the IVP has a horrible track record with the underwriting markets here in the USA. A good number of them won't touch the aircraft for either hull and liability or just liability only. That said you shouldn't have too much trouble getting a liability only policy however it will likely run you a few grand and based on your pilot experience of course. I prepared a matrix about 6 months ago for several of the USA based Lancair dealers - the matrix listed every available markets and who was writing what or not writing policies at all. If you would like I can send that market summary to you - just PM me.

PS - This information is in no way a personal bias for or against the aircraft - it is simply informational in terms of the current market appetite for Lancair insurance


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 Post subject: Re: Lancair IV-P Revelations
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Tom Hauge (post above this one) saved the day for me. Not only found hull and liability - but in May, he found a carrier that gave me an absolutely awesome rate! So Lancairs are back in the game!


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How much for insurance Dave?


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 Post subject: Re: Lancair IV-P Revelations
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Tap the brakes prior to retracting the gear otherwise the wheels can rub.
Lancair must have changed wheel bearings on the IV. On the 2-place, the wheel bearings are highly pre-loaded so that the wheels won't spin more than a couple inches if you give them a push. That's to keep the integral bearing seals from spinning in the wheel.


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How much for insurance Dave?


0 time in type
4000TT
adequate retract/ME time
175K hull
1M/200K
low 4 digits. (high 4 digits a year ago or less.)
In the winter a competing buyer for the type was told by others (not Tom, pretty sure) $25K/yr.


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How much for insurance Dave?

Insurance as follows:
ATP 3000+ TT
250 in type
2500 turbine mainly MU2, also CE500 and DA10
Insurer: Acceleration Aviation
Broker: Michelle Friday, Ladd Gardner Aviation Insurance 972-250-0400
Hull $300k
Limit $1m/$100k
Deductible $30k
Medical $5k
Total: $5330
BTW: I know of one other IVP who was cheaper, it was wrapped up with 4 Eclipse in a bundle.


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Michael,

At what speed does the IV-P stall in a turn with the brakes out?


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