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Falcon 9 Heavy Liftoff is scheduled for 5:56 p.m. ET. this afternoon. Both side boosters will return, but not the core stage.


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Launch successful. Seeing those two side-boosters touch down at the Cape literally brings tears to my eyes. The engineering to pull that off is WAY beyond anything I ever learned in engineering school. Congratulations, Space X.


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Launch successful. Seeing those two side-boosters touch down at the Cape literally brings tears to my eyes. The engineering to pull that off is WAY beyond anything I ever learned in engineering school. Congratulations, Space X.


Why no core-return, though? Inquiring minds..........

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I saw the booster return firing from the west coast of FL. Amazing this can be seen from over 150 miles away.

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They needed the extra performance of the full fuel load to be expended on the core booster so it was expended.

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Launch successful. Seeing those two side-boosters touch down at the Cape literally brings tears to my eyes. The engineering to pull that off is WAY beyond anything I ever learned in engineering school. Congratulations, Space X.


Why no core-return, though? Inquiring minds..........

Not enough fuel left after mission profile to do reentry and landing burns.

Between the time boosters had to separate and MECO the center core gained more than twice as much altitude (54 -> 112 miles). I'm sure the taxpayers more than adequately covered the cost of expended booster to get their satellite to proper orbit.

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They needed the extra performance of the full fuel load to be expended on the core booster so it was expended.

or (maybe, just a thought) the trajectory observed while landing it would give clues to the destination of the cargo. Either way, we all paid for it!


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I’m pretty sure any global actor that wants to know where it’s going has the tracking resources to watch real time.


We watched the launch from the beach. Wow! Probably the best launch I’ve ever witnessed. The setting sun illuminated the exhaust plumes and vehicles such that they seemed far closer. Could easily see the separation, braking burn, tracking back to cape, then descent burns. :bow:


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My daughter took this shot of the booster "turnaround burn" from her back yard in Melbourne, FL:

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My daughter took this shot of the booster "turnaround burn" from her back yard in Melbourne, FL:

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You know, the teenager in me really wants to make a comment on that photo. The adult in me is too much of a gentleman.

edit: Also, I'm stealing that photo to send to my friend in Cocoa Beach. :D


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They needed the extra performance of the full fuel load to be expended on the core booster so it was expended.

You'll also notice that the center booster has no landing legs or grid fins; all left off to save weight and enable it, along with the remaining fuel, to get to the desired orbit.

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They needed the extra performance of the full fuel load to be expended on the core booster so it was expended.

or (maybe, just a thought) the trajectory observed while landing it would give clues to the destination of the cargo. Either way, we all paid for it!

There is a small group of hobbyist astronomers that track satellites in-orbit and frequently publish/update the six constants that define an orbit. AKA: Keplerian elements. Their software is very advanced … even NASA and USAF uses it.

https://www.nlsa.com/

https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/he ... orbits.pdf

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