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 Post subject: Why do people sneer at Maules?
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Lots of eye rolling and upturned noses...what's the story? Why all the haters?


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Lots of eye rolling and upturned noses...what's the story? Why all the haters?


Whatever they say about a Maul shouldn't bother a blow and suck driver in the least. :duck:

Just kidding. I think it has to do with less than stellar build quality coupled with abysmal handling traits. It did look cool stopping for beer in Cannnball run though. :cheers:

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... less than stellar build quality coupled with abysmal handling traits...

Specifics? Are they that bad?

What makes the handling abysmal?


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well i'll try, they're ugly? secondly, they're mostly popular up north west where bush planes thrive

that's my uneducated, unexperienced opinion


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Maules, built by farmers for farmers. The negative flaps do add about 4-5 MPH.

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I've always liked them, although it's one brand of plane I haven't owned or flown yet.

Seems like they'd be good in the back country or with short fields.

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Well I guess I'm a dolt. I didn't know they were ugly or poorly built or poor handling or that people sneered at them. I thought exactly the opposite.

I have flown one but it was way back in the dark ages when I was just happy to be flying anything that wasn't a C150. I remember leaping off the ground pulling full flaps and landing on very little as well. Could it be the sneers come from people who haven't flown it?


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I have flown several and found them to be very good for what they were designed to do. I didn't think that they handled badly, or were any bad quality that was worth noting. There are 2 M7 tricycle planes at our airport and I fly with both of them for their flight reviews and IPC's. My guess is that most of the bad press is from those that have not been in them.


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CAP bought a bunch of nosedragger models a while back and the fleet sustained a lot of incidents. As near as I can tell, the problems were mostly that people tried to operate them like they were 172s.

I rode in one once and found it slightly more cramped than 172 with 3 big guys up front, and there was very little leg room in the back.


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CAP bought a bunch of nosedragger models a while back and the fleet sustained a lot of incidents. As near as I can tell, the problems were mostly that people tried to operate them like they were 172s.

I rode in one once and found it slightly more cramped than 172 with 3 big guys up front, and there was very little leg room in the back.


The only plane I have found uncramped with three big guys up front is the Twin Bonanza.

I have never sneered at a maule.


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Lots of eye rolling and upturned noses...what's the story? Why all the haters?


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I like them and we considered one. But I like Cessnas too so what do I know... :tongue:

I'd be interested to hear about what the terrible handling qualities are. I suspect its similar to the rumors about how "Beech V-tails fall off all the time".


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It is my understanding that the company runs naked as far as insurance goes. Which would mean you as the owner don't have the manufacturers deep pockets along side you if there is a problem. I guess Lycoming would still be on the hook.

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... less than stellar build quality coupled with abysmal handling traits...

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As far as the handling goes, I found them to be unbalanced, sluggish, and a little heavy considering what a Maul weighs and how fast it goes. They do offer good short field performance, but that is a well served market. Don't confuse handling qualities with performance.

To be fair, I have the same opinion of an Aviat Husky...how did they take something as beautiful as a Super Cub, make it even prettier and somehow ruin the control feel, especially considering that they had tons of experience with the exceptional control feel of a Pitts?

I guess when people decide to one up Piper, they somehow end up improving performance and absolutely ruin the feel. I guess they aren't alone, in many ways, the same thing was done to the Champ.

As far as quality, go and take a look at one, preferably while it is apart getting an annual inspection. A Beechcraft it is not, heck, its not even a Piper.

I actually don't sneer at them, but I doubt I'll ever have the desire to own one.
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