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PostPosted: 21 Apr 2017, 12:12 
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Clutch failed on the Lancair speedbrake. They wanted over $3,000 to fix it until I mentioned it goes on an experimental plane. They said this was their standard repair price for certified airplanes; I almost fell over. For experimentals, the price dropped to $600 but he said I won't get any 8130s to with I replied "great, don't need them on my bobsled".

This sort of thing is killing general aviation and creating a big push towards experimental aviation.


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Clutch failed on the Lancair speedbrake. They wanted over $3,000 to fix it until I mentioned it goes on an experimental plane. They said this was their standard repair price for certified airplanes; I almost fell over. For experimentals, the price dropped to $600 but he said I won't get any 8130s to with I replied "great, don't need them on my bobsled".

This sort of thing is killing general aviation and creating a big push towards experimental aviation.


This has to be being done on purpose.

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 Post subject: Re: Precise Flight
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It would also appear that Signature has latched on to this pilots have lots of money for frivolous services concept as well. I'm sure there are lots of hangar ferries because of these types of practices too.

GA will be dead once those over 40 years old today stop flying. Pilot mills will be all that's left and I'd bet at that point, automation will be the bulk of commercial aviation operations. The industry itself is strangling those who feed it. The worse it gets for them, the tighter they squeeze!


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Had the same experience recently. Sent in a pair of speed brakes off of a Mooney Bravo. It took 4 weeks and about $2,500.


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I was planning on picking up my Lancair today after 5 months of upgrades but the speedbrakes are not working. grrrr.. I already bought a plane ticket.

Apparently, my Lancair (maybe all Lancairs) have a controller/computer that allows the speedbrakes to be titrated to whatever the pilot specifies (an inch, half, 3/4, full, etc.) whereas certified planes are either fully out or fully retracted. They sent me a brand new controller because the lawyers want these "modified" controllers off the market. They didn't tell me this and the new controller won't work with my existing wiring/switches. Their response was to simply rewire the system and install new switches. I told them this was not acceptable. They also said that my old controller was in pieces and they would have to put it back together. I said fine. They said "we aren't sure it will pass the drop test". I asked what the hell is that. They responded that per FAR 111211212121212 they must drop the controller from XX feet and see if the speedbrakes do anything funny to simulate a terrible landing. I asked if they were joking, they said no. I also said that making terrible landings in my Lancair was not my thing.

Long story short, they are going to send me my old controller back and I really appreciated them doing this without telling me, holding my old controller hostage, wasting 5 hours of troubleshooting and wasting my plane ticket and time. I'll probably post a similar story in a week about why the speedbrakes still don't work.


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mine are open/shut, i had a controller fail, it's worth it to get the new style/design for reliability

when my controller failed and they overnighted me a replacement one for $575, I have wiring diagrams if helpful

they are not required for flight, you could just pull the CB and fly the plane, replace at your own schedule


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