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Post subject: Re: You say you want an Evolution ... Posted: 24 Feb 2019, 02:19 |
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Joined: 11/22/12 Posts: 2595 Post Likes: +2352 Company: Retired Location: Lynnwood, WA (KPAE)
Aircraft: 1993 Bonanza A36TN
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Got some insurance quotes. There are now 2 companies in the Evo market so it's improved some. The pilot is 60, Commercial, 2,200 hours, about 2,000 of it in my A36, no turbine time, based at an airport with paved runway, tower and hangar.
After transition training: -- Liability came in around $3K, not bad. More than my A36, of course, but considering the difference in value, time in type, and certified vs. experimental, better than I expected. -- Full coverage, including liability of course, would be 2.8% of hull value. Higher than what I've heard for something like a Meridian but considering it's experimental and the spate of hull losses a couple of years ago, not surprising. Better than I braced myself for, actually. -- Ground only, not in motion (again, including liability) was 1.2% of hull value. That was a surprise. On my A36 it's a few hundred bucks. But on the Evo it's over 40% of the full coverage premium. So the insurance company's judgement is that the amount of risk while sitting on the ground with the engine off is so great that unlimited flying would only add a little more than that much risk again. Wow. I think that's testimony to the impact of the nose gear collapses under tow. Individually, they've not been as expensive as the in-flight losses that get all the publicity but there've been enough of them that they add up.
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Post subject: Re: You say you want an Evolution ... Posted: 28 Apr 2019, 19:34 |
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Joined: 11/22/12 Posts: 2595 Post Likes: +2352 Company: Retired Location: Lynnwood, WA (KPAE)
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Fuselage in primer, curing out while waiting for its next turn in the paint booth. Attachment: IMG_20190423_143910434 1.jpg Meanwhile, reattaching the hardware to the now-painted wings Attachment: IMG_20190423_164225609.jpg Attachment: IMG_20190423_164345924.jpg
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Post subject: Re: You say you want an Evolution ... Posted: 04 May 2019, 14:14 |
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Joined: 11/22/12 Posts: 2595 Post Likes: +2352 Company: Retired Location: Lynnwood, WA (KPAE)
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Working on wiring harnesses. Attachment: IMG_20190423_154554807.jpg Attachment: IMG_20190423_154613803.jpg Attachment: IMG_20190423_154606141.jpg
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Post subject: Re: You say you want an Evolution ... Posted: 24 May 2019, 19:33 |
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Joined: 11/22/12 Posts: 2595 Post Likes: +2352 Company: Retired Location: Lynnwood, WA (KPAE)
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Final prep for the paint booth! Should come out by mid-June, then we start final assembly. Attachment: Paint shop 1.jpg Attachment: Paint shop 2.jpg
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Post subject: Re: You say you want an Evolution ... Posted: 24 May 2019, 21:02 |
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Joined: 11/22/12 Posts: 2595 Post Likes: +2352 Company: Retired Location: Lynnwood, WA (KPAE)
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Username Protected wrote: Gonna make Oshkosh? Definitely. But I don't know which year.
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Post subject: Re: You say you want an Evolution ... Posted: 22 Jun 2019, 01:56 |
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Joined: 11/22/12 Posts: 2595 Post Likes: +2352 Company: Retired Location: Lynnwood, WA (KPAE)
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Painting finished, we'll bring it back to the shop, let the paint cure for a while then put it all together. Attachment: Fuselage (2).jpg
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Post subject: Re: You say you want an Evolution ... Posted: 22 Jun 2019, 02:13 |
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Joined: 09/17/12 Posts: 136 Post Likes: +72 Location: Central TX
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Username Protected wrote: Got some insurance quotes. There are now 2 companies in the Evo market so it's improved some. The pilot is 60, Commercial, 2,200 hours, about 2,000 of it in my A36, no turbine time, based at an airport with paved runway, tower and hangar.
After transition training: -- Liability came in around $3K, not bad. More than my A36, of course, but considering the difference in value, time in type, and certified vs. experimental, better than I expected. -- Full coverage, including liability of course, would be 2.8% of hull value. Higher than what I've heard for something like a Meridian but considering it's experimental and the spate of hull losses a couple of years ago, not surprising. Better than I braced myself for, actually. -- Ground only, not in motion (again, including liability) was 1.2% of hull value. That was a surprise. On my A36 it's a few hundred bucks. But on the Evo it's over 40% of the full coverage premium. So the insurance company's judgement is that the amount of risk while sitting on the ground with the engine off is so great that unlimited flying would only add a little more than that much risk again. Wow. I think that's testimony to the impact of the nose gear collapses under tow. Individually, they've not been as expensive as the in-flight losses that get all the publicity but there've been enough of them that they add up. Dave, does this mean full coverage is in the ~$25K range annually? Nice looking bird.
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Post subject: Re: You say you want an Evolution ... Posted: 22 Jun 2019, 06:50 |
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Ok, I’ve got to ask. I’ve got the VH figured out but 143?
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Post subject: Re: You say you want an Evolution ... Posted: 22 Jun 2019, 09:50 |
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Joined: 11/07/11 Posts: 723 Post Likes: +412 Location: KBED, KCRE
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Maybe a Dave Van Dyke fan.
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Post subject: Re: You say you want an Evolution ... Posted: 23 Jun 2019, 01:18 |
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Joined: 11/22/12 Posts: 2595 Post Likes: +2352 Company: Retired Location: Lynnwood, WA (KPAE)
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Username Protected wrote: Full coverage, including liability of course, would be 2.8% of hull value. Dave, does this mean full coverage is in the ~$25K range annually? Yes, depending of course on the usual variables: stated value, limits, your experience, etc. Rates jumped a year or two back when mergers narrowed the market down to just one company that would cover the Evo but it was short lived, they started back down when a second company entered the market. I'd like them even lower, of course.
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