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Everyone raves about the -42 engine on the Evo.
"Everyone" might be a little strong. Of the several build shops I investigated, only RDD liked the -42 engine on the Evo. The three Evo flight test and training pilots I talked to preferred the -135A as well.


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nobody cares about the G900x, because it's a dinosaur
That was a big sticking point for me as well, as a computer guy, for quite some time. I finally resigned myself to having to upgrade when it came out. But as soon as they announced the G1000NXi the Osborne effect kicked in. Everyone knows that the new hardware will quickly replace the old in the G1000/G950/G900X model line, I'm sure sales of the old fell off a cliff. I was disappointed that Garmin didn't announce the "G900NXi", or whatever it will be, at SnF but I'm expecting it by Oshkosh. In the E-AB world we put off the avionics decisions as long as possible since things change so fast. I haven't even looked at the avionics options yet and won't until August. So I have reason for optimism that the NXi system will be in my plane and certainly any new orders.


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I think that the PT6 will be cheaper to maintain and run over the long haul........jetA is about half the cost of AvGas!
And with better dispatch reliability, at least I hope so. I went through a period of one thing after another on my current plane after it reached drinking age and it colored my decision making. I'm willing to accept somewhat higher scheduled costs in exchange for fewer trip-canceling surprises.


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nobody cares about the G900x, because it's a dinosaur
So I have reason for optimism that the NXi system will be in my plane and certainly any new orders.


I don't understand, you aren't the target market for the G1000Nxi, an old king air is, because it slips right into the same footprint as the G1000 currently in them, and various other reasons

why would you consider anything other than a G3X Touch if you are a.) experimental, and b.) going with garmin

The g900x was the flagship- before the G3X Touch, so it makes sense that Lancair brokered a large deal at that time, that was YEARS ago

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all that carbon fiber is awesome. I would just clearcoat it.


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all that carbon fiber is awesome. I would just clearcoat it.


i would strategically mask off certain sections of it to use for striping or such, and then when final paint is laid down, it would be a highlight feature


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Reading a blog where Austin Meyer kvetches about poor treatment of customers is far too rich for me. :pullhair:

Nice Evo though. :D I love this plane. I'd take the PT6 for 1.2 over the Piston for 800k every time. That was the math last time I looked -- is it still in that appx ratio?

I wish someone made a 400hp diesel. :D


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I don't understand, you aren't the target market for the G1000Nxi, an old king air is, because it slips right into the same footprint as the G1000 currently in them, and various other reasons
The NXi isn't just for the upgrade market, it's replaced the original G1000 in all OEMs. Piper, Textron and TBM have already announced it. I doubt Garmin is making any more of the old hardware except to refurbish old boxes as they come in, who would buy it? Osborne effect. And that counts double for the 950 (upgrade) and 900X (experimental) markets where customers have a choice, not limited by the type certificate.
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why would you consider anything other than a G3X Touch if you are a.) experimental, and b.) going with garmin
Autopilot and F/D, both of which are important to me for single piloting. The GFC700 is the best and build shops I talked to -- again, with the exception of RDD -- don't think the G3X is up to the job. Note that the G3X Touch is standard and the GFC700 unavailable on the Evo piston and EAC (new name, no longer Lancair since the old lines were sold to Texas) was surprised by the pushback from potential piston buyers. It was quite a coup that Lancair managed to get the GFC700 on the Evo, Garmin hasn't done it for any other E-AB, they say it's too much work to customize the software for each airframe.


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all that carbon fiber is awesome. I would just clearcoat it.
I know, right? "Mr. Wayne, your plane is here." Unfortunately I'm told that doesn't work, the clearcoat to protect the carbon from UV yellows over time then has to be stripped and redone, hard to do with no paint protecting the carbon surface. In carbon fiber bicycles, I was surprised to find that a "nude" carbon frame was heavier than a painted one; they said that without paint they put on an extra, purely cosmetic layer of carbon to show through the clearcoat, it's non-structural so UV doesn't matter. I've seen some planes with a carbon weave painted on that looks really good.


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What does the GFC700 do that the G3X AP does not offer?


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I've flown both the G1000/700 AP and the G3X touch/G3X AP and the entire G3X system is leaps and bounds superior to the G1000 system. I totally get the reason for the NXi in the certified market but for a new build experimental airplane, the G3X is the only logical decision to make.

The only way to make the G1000 system next gen equal to the G3X system would be to make it a touch screen, simplify the user interface and drop the price 75% thereby turning it into a G3X Touch.

I suggest you fly both before making an avionics decision.

You are welcome to fly my IV-P with the Touch.


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If you need color scheme advice, please listen to me, or you land up with what Gerry A has :duck:
His is a bit bright for my taste, but then I only saw it once. Indoors. With my sunglasses on. ;)


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I think that the PT6 will be cheaper to maintain and run over the long haul........jetA is about half the cost of AvGas!
And with better dispatch reliability, at least I hope so. I went through a period of one thing after another on my current plane after it reached drinking age and it colored my decision making. I'm willing to accept somewhat higher scheduled costs in exchange for fewer trip-canceling surprises.


I doubt your current plane is a dog; you certainly could sell it off to your old tailwheel instructor who would love TKS! Congratulations on the new build, it's cool to hear an Evo will be based on the field Dave.

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Everyone raves about the -42 engine on the Evo.
"Everyone" might be a little strong. Of the several build shops I investigated, only RDD liked the -42 engine on the Evo. The three Evo flight test and training pilots I talked to preferred the -135A as well.


What build shop are you using?
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