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Post subject: Re: Considering a Turbo Commander for my next plane Posted: 13 Mar 2017, 22:02 |
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Username Protected wrote: I don't take offense at the slap towards me, after all I did start it by picking on the MU2. You are a marketing troll posting in these forums to generate name recognition and awareness of you and your business. So stirring things up by creating contention furthers your goals. The MU2 is an obvious target being a controversial airplane over the years. Quote: I personally feel like I have given the MU2 a fair shake, but I have learned on this very forum that any slight towards the airplane is fighting words. MU2 owners are often confronted by ignorance oft repeated by many much like yourself. So much of it has been repeated so long that the truth is far less visible than the lies sometimes. The only treatment is to constantly provide factual and objective information and hope those who matter can tell the difference, and pitty those who can't. Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: Considering a Turbo Commander for my next plane Posted: 13 Mar 2017, 22:11 |
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Joined: 12/03/14 Posts: 19252 Post Likes: +23612 Company: Ciholas, Inc Location: KEHR
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Username Protected wrote: How many people can comfortably transported in the short body MU2 which James is discussing upgrading from? 6 people very nicely. No knee knocking. I had 7 once, 3 on the rear bench. Needs to be small people. My useful load full fuel is 1220 lbs, so 6 plus bags is quite doable in most cases, or requires only a very minor reduction in fuel load. Quote: Hasn't this MU2 versus TC, little wing with lift flaps and spoilers versus big wing debate has been very well really, really well articulated multiple times in the last couple years and I'm getting a serious, possibly terminal case of the deja vu.... MU2 bashing is an addiction that some can't break, so the cycle starts over. Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: Considering a Turbo Commander for my next plane Posted: 13 Mar 2017, 22:14 |
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Username Protected wrote: But it does beg the question that has been asked here many times before - does every f-ing thread have to become a MU-2 thread? Guy wants a Turbo Commander, let's talk Turbo Commanders. First sentence of this thread: "I love my MU2." It was always going to be about comparing an MU2 to a Commander. So suck it up and deal with it. Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: Considering a Turbo Commander for my next plane Posted: 13 Mar 2017, 22:17 |
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Username Protected wrote: But it does beg the question that has been asked here many times before - does every f-ing thread have to become a MU-2 thread? Guy wants a Turbo Commander, let's talk Turbo Commanders. First sentence of this thread: "I love my MU2." I was always going to be about comparing an MU2 to a Commander. So suck it up and deal with it. Mike C. Everybody doesnt pray at the MU2 alter. So suck it up and deal with it.
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Post subject: Re: Considering a Turbo Commander for my next plane Posted: 13 Mar 2017, 22:18 |
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Username Protected wrote: But it does beg the question that has been asked here many times before - does every f-ing thread have to become a MU-2 thread? Guy wants a Turbo Commander, let's talk Turbo Commanders. First sentence of this thread: "I love my MU2." I was always going to be about comparing an MU2 to a Commander. So suck it up and deal with it. Mike C.
Hard to ague this one.........just saying
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Post subject: Re: Considering a Turbo Commander for my next plane Posted: 13 Mar 2017, 22:20 |
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Username Protected wrote: Everybody doesnt pray at the MU2 alter. Don't want or need them to, just hoping they would stop vandalizing the altar for a while. Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: Considering a Turbo Commander for my next plane Posted: 13 Mar 2017, 22:29 |
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Username Protected wrote: But it does beg the question that has been asked here many times before - does every f-ing thread have to become a MU-2 thread? Guy wants a Turbo Commander, let's talk Turbo Commanders. Nah, he wants a PC12 so he can beat on the bulkhead and get warp speed bro!!!!
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Post subject: Re: Considering a Turbo Commander for my next plane Posted: 13 Mar 2017, 22:55 |
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Username Protected wrote: But it does beg the question that has been asked here many times before - does every f-ing thread have to become a MU-2 thread? Guy wants a Turbo Commander, let's talk Turbo Commanders. There's three MU2 threads going just on the first page of Brand X Talk... for such a small fleet they sure have a big footprint on forums. Someone should create an MU2 forum... they'd get rich!
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Post subject: Re: Considering a Turbo Commander for my next plane Posted: 13 Mar 2017, 23:00 |
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Seriously folks. The MU2 has been getting a bad rap for decades, mostly from those that don't know the airplane. It is a high utility machine that is fast and efficient as well as having a high safety rating. After having to go through re-certification 4 times and given a clean bill of health each time is evidence of this. I don't think any production airplane has gone through the extreme ice testing as the MU2 airframe.
I had a long body Marquise. It road the bumps extremely well, the cabin was comfortable with a large potty area. The potty is much more usable in the Marquise than my Beechjet. It is no slouch either. On a warm, slow day, I would see 285-290 kts. On a cool day, I would see 295-305 kts. If you have a good airplane, dispatch reliability is superb. The mechanics that work on them love them. Product support is 2nd to none.
It flies a little different and has a few different procedures as compared to piston twins and the cookie cutter turbo-props.
You will hear all kinds of things contrary to the truth from people that talked to a guy. THAT is why MU2 owners get their feathers ruffled. Just trying to set the record straight.
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