BeechTalk - BT - CJ3

Username Protected · **Posted:** 05 Jan 2017, 11:15

Pretty impressive for a CJ3. 2000 nm and landed with 1130 lbs of reserve while taking off at MGW.

http://tamarackaero.com/insights/2016/1 ... zt-to-ksfb

Username Protected · **Posted:** 05 Jan 2017, 11:21

Username Protected wrote:

while taking off at MGW.

150 over

Username Protected · **Posted:** 05 Jan 2017, 11:26

They should have filled up in Orlando and done the return trip back to back to get a good average.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 05 Jan 2017, 11:33

Just curious if taking off over gross is a violation for this flight? I think if I had taken off over MGW I would not post it on the internet but maybe the rules are different or they had some sort of waiver.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 05 Jan 2017, 11:36

Username Protected wrote:

Just curious if taking off over gross is a violation for this flight? I think if I had taken off over MGW I would not post it on the internet but maybe the rules are different or they had some sort of waiver.

It's on an experimental certificate for certification purposes. Nothing illegal here.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 05 Jan 2017, 11:41

Username Protected wrote:

Just curious if taking off over gross is a violation for this flight? I think if I had taken off over MGW I would not post it on the internet but maybe the rules are different or they had some sort of waiver.

It's on an experimental certificate for certification purposes. Nothing illegal here.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 05 Jan 2017, 12:09

Wow! Any idea on timing or price? Seems it tips the Phenom 300/CJ3 scales towards the CJ3.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 05 Jan 2017, 12:18

John, agree with you. Frigging Jet's have jumped in price after the election results......

being able to do the non-stop westbound would be frigging game changing for me.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 05 Jan 2017, 16:12

Username Protected wrote:

Wow! Any idea on timing or price? Seems it tips the Phenom 300/CJ3 scales towards the CJ3.

Around $250K. You can get about a 20% discount if you sign up before certification is complete.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 05 Jan 2017, 16:30

Sounds like the winglets are good. Nice.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 05 Jan 2017, 17:50

Username Protected wrote:

Wow! Any idea on timing or price? Seems it tips the Phenom 300/CJ3 scales towards the CJ3.

Around $250K. You can get about a 20% discount if you sign up before certification is complete.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 05 Jan 2017, 19:57

The performance gain with these is pretty impressive. No reason they won't eventually certify on more planes. Makes some of the small jets range much more usable IMO.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 05 Jan 2017, 21:10

Username Protected wrote:

I thought they just got some form of certification. Just the Cj1 maybe?

They just got certified for the CJ, CJ1, CJ1+ and M2.

They are now working on the C525B (CJ3 and CJ3+).

http://www.flyingmag.com/faa-approves-t ... inglet-stc

Username Protected · **Posted:** 05 Jan 2017, 21:54

Username Protected wrote:

Wow! Any idea on timing or price? Seems it tips the Phenom 300/CJ3 scales towards the CJ3.

I may be biased, but even with the winglets, I don't think a CJ3 compares to a Phenom 300.

I just plugged that trip in fltplan.com, and the Phenom could do it in 4:47 and land with 1003 lbs of fuel. Plus, I always beat the fltplan numbers in both time and fuel remaining.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 05 Jan 2017, 22:25

Ed, we aspiring Phenom fellas would like to learn a little more.........tell me why I should trade in the PC12 for a Phenom 300?

CJ3 - Sandpoint ID to Orlando nonstop at MGW