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Post subject: Why Some are selling their Eclipse Posted: 18 Nov 2015, 04:43 |
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Joined: 10/31/14 Posts: 550 Post Likes: +261
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Thought it would be useful for the lurkers on this site to hear why I sold my Eclipse:
I decided it made both business sense and lifestyle sense last year to purchase a small jet. .
I spent a substantial amount of time on this board - and on the CJP board as I evaluated the Mustang at the same time. Both boards have some great resources and the associations are run by some super folks. But there is plenty of wheat and chaff to separate on both. And each aircraft option has its' lesser and greater attributes.
In the end, I purchased a Total Eclipse in March. I thought (and still think) I made the right decision. I had the Eclipse ABQ service center upgrade the aircraft to the latest 550 specs: the "Plus" upgrades and new windows(all 4) plus all actuators replaced and all SB mods accomplished. They did a great job! It was a pleasure to deal with Dennis Whiteturkey, Jon Fox, Sam Sandoval, and Cary Winter and the other folks in ABQ. Started flying it in May (getting typed in theaircraft with Tom Norton’s company). Flew it to Greenland and Iceland, and acrossthe US. Put 125 hours on it over 6 months. Pretty much flawless. Supurb D.O.C.’s. Simple. Safe. Cost Effective. Fun. And mission ready. True airliner replacement.
Since the Eclipse was basically perfect, I decided to sell it.
Spent a couple of months analyzing some options to make sure I was making theright decision. Test flew the M2. Great plane. Different mission profile. 40% higher DOC’s. Plus higher indirect costs of about $100K peryear (not including depreciation). But about 6% faster. With a bigger cabin (definitely made for more passengers to bringalong). A little more difficult in systems management(IS&S Avio may be fun to beat up on - but it does do some things thatthe Garmin G3000 cannot).
Summary - taking delivery on 550-1002next month.
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Post subject: Re: Why Some are selling their Eclipse Posted: 18 Nov 2015, 05:59 |
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Joined: 10/31/14 Posts: 550 Post Likes: +261
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Username Protected wrote: Andy, we all know that dollar signs and decimal points mean different things to different people, but I was struck by your emphasis on the 6% increase in cruise speed. Surely this alone doesn't justify the 40% increase in direct costs and the $100,000/yr in fixed costs. Was it the larger cabin that lured you? Was there something about the Eclipse that didn't sit right?
(Mind you, I am not in this market. I just happen to be up at 3 am.) Chad, And I an up @5 so wrong It's not me The guy bought a ground up new Eclipse Sorry for the confusion writing and posting not my strong suit
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Post subject: Re: Why Some are selling their Eclipse Posted: 18 Nov 2015, 10:59 |
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So basically, the reason some are selling their Eclipse is because they are perfect?
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Post subject: Re: Why Some are selling their Eclipse Posted: 18 Nov 2015, 11:27 |
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Joined: 07/12/09 Posts: 3618 Post Likes: +1190 Company: Leopold Aero, LLC Location: KPTW Heritage Field Pottstown, PA
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Username Protected wrote: So basically, the reason some are selling their Eclipse is because they are perfect? I may know a few people here on BT that DID that with every one of their planes they owned.
_________________ The advice you get is worth what you paid for it... Mike Dechnik KPTW '78 E55
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Post subject: Re: Why Some are selling their Eclipse Posted: 18 Nov 2015, 12:39 |
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Username Protected wrote: So basically, the reason some are selling their Eclipse is because they are perfect? go out on a high note
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Post subject: Re: Why Some are selling their Eclipse Posted: 18 Nov 2015, 12:46 |
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Username Protected wrote: So basically, the reason some are selling their Eclipse is because they are perfect? +1. Not following the post. Also not following what plane you bought..... an M2?
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Post subject: Re: Why Some are selling their Eclipse Posted: 18 Nov 2015, 15:28 |
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[youtube]https://youtu.be/EIzei3vAqRY[/youtube]
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Post subject: Re: Why Some are selling their Eclipse Posted: 18 Nov 2015, 16:06 |
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Username Protected wrote: My read is that he sold it to by a new one. Yes, exactly. Though I'm unclear whether it was Andy's personal story or just his re-post of someone else's story.
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Post subject: Re: Why Some are selling their Eclipse Posted: 18 Nov 2015, 16:30 |
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Username Protected wrote: My read is that he sold it to by a new one. is that what M2 means ? I thought maybe cessna mustang
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Post subject: Re: Why Some are selling their Eclipse Posted: 18 Nov 2015, 16:47 |
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Joined: 10/05/09 Posts: 1166 Post Likes: +446 Location: Charleston, SC (KJZI)
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Username Protected wrote: My read is that he sold it to by a new one. is that what M2 means ? I thought maybe cessna mustang
M2=CJ1+ Changed the name so they could lower the price to compete with the Phenom 100.
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Post subject: Re: Why Some are selling their Eclipse Posted: 18 Nov 2015, 17:01 |
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Username Protected wrote: Summary - taking delivery on 550-1002next month.
_________________ Be Nice
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Post subject: Re: Why Some are selling their Eclipse Posted: 18 Nov 2015, 18:52 |
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Username Protected wrote: My read is that he sold it to by a new one. Yes, exactly. Though I'm unclear whether it was Andy's personal story or just his re-post of someone else's story.
It reads like a repost. Whoever it is should run with Tom and Stan!
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