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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 12 Mar 2019, 15:29 |
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Username Protected wrote: Think of the smooth ride with this new wing loading! And the impact energy with the associated stall speed.... It is not the fall that kills. It is the sudden stoppage.... Tim
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 12 Mar 2019, 16:29 |
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Username Protected wrote: estimated empty weight was 2,000 lbs. They weighed the prototype last week and it came in at 2917 lbs. Wow, no one saw that coming. Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 12 Mar 2019, 16:35 |
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Username Protected wrote: estimated empty weight was 2,000 lbs. They weighed the prototype last week and it came in at 2917 lbs. Wow, no one saw that coming. Mike C.
Except the Starship design folks......
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 12 Mar 2019, 20:57 |
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Username Protected wrote: To be fair, most airplanes gain weight over time. The Bonanza gained that 45% and more but it took them 50 years. So maybe in this, as in so many ways, the Raptor folks are just slightly ahead of their time! ...and so do college kids and old folks like me!
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 13 Mar 2019, 23:06 |
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Just watched the latest update video, and Peter is talking to the camera and explains why they are doing all the sanding and priming trying make the prototype as pretty as possible, because...... they are looking for an investor to put real money into it or the project will not be possible.
So now those with “refundable” deposits may get to find out if they are truly refundable. Who knows someone may invest in it, but it won’t be at the pricing level advertised on the website.
Disappointed - yes. Surprised - no.
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 13 Mar 2019, 23:52 |
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Username Protected wrote: trying make the prototype as pretty as possible, because...... they are looking for an investor to put real money into it or the project will not be possible. They don't understand investors. Investors are not swayed by pretty. They are swayed by a feasible idea, talented team, solid execution plan, and profit potential. This project might be 0 for 4 on those points. Investors are particularly adept at detecting lip stick on a pig. Pretty might actually count against you as the investors want to see the ugly as much as possible and they will question your priorities if you spend your time on the wrong thing now. The chance this project turns into a viable product is about the same as winning the lottery. Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 14 Mar 2019, 00:33 |
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Username Protected wrote: trying make the prototype as pretty as possible, because...... they are looking for an investor to put real money into it or the project will not be possible. They don't understand investors. Investors are not swayed by pretty. They are swayed by a feasible idea, talented team, solid execution plan, and profit potential. This project might be 0 for 4 on those points. Investors are particularly adept at detecting lip stick on a pig. Pretty might actually count against you as the investors want to see the ugly as much as possible and they will question your priorities if you spend your time on the wrong thing now. The chance this project turns into a viable product is about the same as winning the lottery. Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 14 Mar 2019, 13:06 |
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Where are the Raptor Believers? And if this doesn’t work out, what will I do with the hangar space between my Terrafugia and my supersonic BD-10?
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