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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 14 Feb 2021, 14:56 |
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Username Protected wrote: Broken connecting rod or wrist pin on one of the cylinders. That makes the TBO about what, a dozen hours?
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 14 Feb 2021, 15:05 |
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Joined: 03/15/16 Posts: 695 Post Likes: +365 Location: Charlotte NC
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So at this rate it’ll take 3+ engines to make it to his 40 hour goal? I don’t mean to sound mean, but 3 engine failures may be pushing even Peter’s luck!
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 14 Feb 2021, 15:19 |
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Username Protected wrote: 3 engine failures may be pushing even Peter’s luck! The fact the engine broke might be good luck. Peter will be alive at least a little bit longer now. Maye this will be stimulus to give up. And he almost had it going 300 knots for 3600 nm. Almost. Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 14 Feb 2021, 15:26 |
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Username Protected wrote: Broken connecting rod or wrist pin on one of the cylinders. Engine swap time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpqeDZopQ8UIs that related to the oil leak and subsequent loss of power? I think he's saying it's unrelated, if I understood correctly. Considering it's not a field assembled engine, I'm shocked by that failure.
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 14 Feb 2021, 15:37 |
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Username Protected wrote: Is that related to the oil leak and subsequent loss of power? I think he's saying it's unrelated, if I understood correctly. He didn't mention any plans to do a postmortem disassembly of the failed engine but i think he'd have to be insane to skip that. Once apart it should be pretty obvious whether or not the con-rod failure was due to lack of oil and if not I'd bet it's a result of his homebrew ECU setup unless it was caused by pre-existing damage from when it was in a motor vehicle.
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 14 Feb 2021, 15:50 |
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No worries, he has one sourced and on its way. The swap will take a couple of weeks and then he can get on with getting the forty hours he needs, and then it's on to production. No time to mess with why the rod broke, it's just one of those things, no? The plan at this point is obvious: He's going to take what he has and make a kit from it. Whatever the performance is, it is. Whatever he can reduce the weight to, that's what it will be. Lofty dreams are in the bin, he's going to take this plane to market in whatever form it ends up.
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 14 Feb 2021, 16:28 |
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Joined: 05/11/10 Posts: 12404 Post Likes: +11415 Location: Indiana
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Username Protected wrote: No worries, he has one sourced and on its way. The swap will take a couple of weeks and then he can get on with getting the forty hours he needs, and then it's on to production. No time to mess with why the rod broke, it's just one of those things, no? The plan at this point is obvious: He's going to take what he has and make a kit from it. Whatever the performance is, it is. Whatever he can reduce the weight to, that's what it will be. Lofty dreams are in the bin, he's going to take this plane to market in whatever form it ends up. It sure looks that way. He seems to have no curiosity about what went wrong, and no interest in improving what he has. It's all about "flying off the 40 hours and then moving to production."
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 14 Feb 2021, 16:33 |
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I suspect the guy is learning and the second plane will solve most problems and create some new ones. The current aircraft is not marketable even as a kit.
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 14 Feb 2021, 16:34 |
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Username Protected wrote: The plan at this point is obvious: He's going to take what he has and make a kit from it. Whatever the performance is, it is. Whatever he can reduce the weight to, that's what it will be. Lofty dreams are in the bin, he's going to take this plane to market in whatever form it ends up. It sure looks that way. He seems to have no curiosity about what went wrong, and no interest in improving what he has. It's all about "flying off the 40 hours and then moving to production." Sadly, he’ll probably get some orders.
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 14 Feb 2021, 16:53 |
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Username Protected wrote: I suspect the guy is learning and the second plane will solve most problems and create some new ones. The current aircraft is not marketable even as a kit. It doesn't appear that he's learned anything from his engine failure. He's just going to stick a new one on and get back to logging those 40 hours.
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 14 Feb 2021, 16:54 |
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Username Protected wrote: Sadly, he’ll probably get some orders. What WILL be valuable is the list of buyers. Can you imagine what else they'd be willing to buy?
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 14 Feb 2021, 18:06 |
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Username Protected wrote: I suspect the guy is learning and the second plane will solve most problems and create some new ones. The current aircraft is not marketable even as a kit. It doesn't appear that he's learned anything from his engine failure. He's just going to stick a new one on and get back to logging those 40 hours. You are making assumptions not in evidence. I alluded to the second plane. But there are many issues he can address during engine swap.
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 14 Feb 2021, 18:18 |
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Username Protected wrote: You are making assumptions not in evidence. I alluded to the second plane. But there are many issues he can address during engine swap. Since the only thing any of us have to go on is what's in the videos, assuming and guessing is just about all that's available.
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 14 Feb 2021, 18:22 |
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Username Protected wrote: He didn't mention any plans to do a postmortem disassembly of the failed engine but i think he'd have to be insane to skip that. Insanity is the primary fuel for this project, so I don't expect him to change now. Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 14 Feb 2021, 18:42 |
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Joined: 01/18/11 Posts: 7690 Post Likes: +3687 Location: Lakeland , Ga
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I assume he may be a fool. But not a total idiot. He has gone further than the vast majority of you naysayers have stated. I suspect several of the cynics could not design a kite.
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