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Post subject: Re: P337 Q&A Thread Posted: 03 May 2016, 13:17 |
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Thanks for the picture.
Vince
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Post subject: Re: P337 Q&A Thread Posted: 09 Apr 2017, 13:43 |
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Joined: 08/16/15 Posts: 3003 Post Likes: +5595 Location: Portland, OR
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Sorry to resurrect this ancient thread. I'm starting to think about life after Africa... and Coastal Oregon seems high on the list. I'm deciding between the 3,000' runway and the 5,000' runway. Does anyone have experience with the gangly P337 and how it handles ice? Mt. Shasta is my nemesis, and my worst icing episodes seem to always be right there in that little snow pocket. i'm actually leaning towards the 520 engined 337, for "escape" options, but man, a 337 with all of its struts and buboes and scoops and other awful protrusions... I have to assume it turns into a sno-cone pretty quickly. ...appreciate any anecdotes on offer.
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Post subject: Re: P337 Q&A Thread Posted: 09 Apr 2017, 21:57 |
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Joined: 10/05/09 Posts: 286 Post Likes: +130 Location: Portland, Oregon
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Username Protected wrote: Sorry to resurrect this ancient thread. I'm starting to think about life after Africa... and Coastal Oregon seems high on the list. I'm deciding between the 3,000' runway and the 5,000' runway. Does anyone have experience with the gangly P337 and how it handles ice? Mt. Shasta is my nemesis, and my worst icing episodes seem to always be right there in that little snow pocket. i'm actually leaning towards the 520 engined 337, for "escape" options, but man, a 337 with all of its struts and buboes and scoops and other awful protrusions... I have to assume it turns into a sno-cone pretty quickly. ...appreciate any anecdotes on offer. My experience with the P337 in icing wasn't great. It looses more airspeed with similar amounts of icing compared to a P210. The P337 isn't certified for flight into icing either. The 20000 ft ceiling wasn't enough to get on top on occasion, the extra 3000ft a P210 can climb can be useful. The P337 isn't a strong climber and icing made that worse increasing your exposure to icing. The P210 isn't any better in this regard. The engines run hotter with ice on the airframe as well. I never had a problem with induction air on the P337 in icing. Mt feeling is if you are going to fly in icing, there are better choices. Just my opinion after 3 winters flying a P337 in the Pacific Northwest.
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Post subject: Re: P337 Q&A Thread Posted: 25 Apr 2017, 16:52 |
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Joined: 12/10/07 Posts: 30319 Post Likes: +10475 Location: Minneapolis, MN (KFCM)
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Username Protected wrote: Sorry to resurrect this ancient thread. I'm starting to think about life after Africa... and Coastal Oregon seems high on the list. I'm deciding between the 3,000' runway and the 5,000' runway. Does anyone have experience with the gangly P337 and how it handles ice? Mt. Shasta is my nemesis, and my worst icing episodes seem to always be right there in that little snow pocket. i'm actually leaning towards the 520 engined 337, for "escape" options, but man, a 337 with all of its struts and buboes and scoops and other awful protrusions... I have to assume it turns into a sno-cone pretty quickly. ...appreciate any anecdotes on offer. Mike, Go with the 5000 ft runway and get a P-Baron. You won't regret it.
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Post subject: Re: P337 Q&A Thread Posted: 27 Apr 2017, 14:37 |
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Joined: 01/30/15 Posts: 1503 Post Likes: +641 Location: Dalton, Ga. KDNN
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Username Protected wrote: Are your annual costs "normal" or on the low side for this airplane? I ask because I doubt that you will be able to annual any twin, including a 337, for less than $5000-$8000(maintenance costs are very high were I am) in 99% of the country. Your insurance is also very low for a twin. If you don't mind, tell us what are your hull and liability limits are? What is your payload with full fuel? You are in Knoxville and maintenance costs are high ? I would think very reasonable compared to Cal or the NE area. Maybe "AT" your airport but around our area it should be as cheap as anywhere.
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Post subject: Re: P337 Q&A Thread Posted: 27 Apr 2017, 23:03 |
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Joined: 07/22/14 Posts: 118 Post Likes: +53 Company: Robust.ai Location: Portland, OR
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Username Protected wrote: Are your annual costs "normal" or on the low side for this airplane? I ask because I doubt that you will be able to annual any twin, including a 337, for less than $5000-$8000(maintenance costs are very high were I am) in 99% of the country. Your insurance is also very low for a twin. If you don't mind, tell us what are your hull and liability limits are? What is your payload with full fuel? You are in Knoxville and maintenance costs are high ? I would think very reasonable compared to Cal or the NE area. Maybe "AT" your airport but around our area it should be as cheap as anywhere.
Give Chris Bell at Aviation Enterprises a call (http://cessnaskymaster.com); they're at M33 Sumner Co, about 120NM from Knoxville. They have a flat rate for annuals although I don't know what the rate is. They have our P337 there now for the air conditioning installation, among other things.
Best,
Bruce
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Post subject: Re: P337 Q&A Thread Posted: 28 Apr 2017, 11:08 |
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Joined: 02/09/15 Posts: 110 Post Likes: +32 Company: None Location: Miami FL
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Shopping around for annuals recently for my P337, I was quoted between $ 2,500.00 and $ 4,500.00. The lower end was by a mechanic in a small shop, the upper end was by a well known shop in South Florida. I elected the $ 4,500 solution as it is a first annual and they have a lot of experience with the P337.
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Post subject: Re: P337 Q&A Thread Posted: 28 Apr 2017, 11:54 |
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Joined: 12/10/07 Posts: 30319 Post Likes: +10475 Location: Minneapolis, MN (KFCM)
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Username Protected wrote: Shopping around for annuals recently for my P337, I was quoted between $ 2,500.00 and $ 4,500.00. The lower end was by a mechanic in a small shop, the upper end was by a well known shop in South Florida. I elected the $ 4,500 solution as it is a first annual and they have a lot of experience with the P337. Double M in Lakeland?viewtopic.php?f=7&t=137596Sorry, couldn't resist.
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